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Hawkeye
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My car is 5 years old - approx. 12,500
miles.

I'll be putting headers on this fall and am
wondering about the plugs.

1) Should I replace due to age - doubt if they're
worn.

2) Just keep with stock GM plugs

3) Get aftermarket plugs - if so which ones?

Any suggestions?

[ 07. October 2003, 10:58 AM: Message edited by: Hawkeye ]

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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
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Brian,it could not hurt to change them,since you may need to remove them to get the headers in and out.The key is to remove all of them and reinstall them even if they are the old spark plugs since you do not want the plug to seize into the aluminum cylinder head from time. [Smile]

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poSSum
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I've had stock and Champion copper and now have the NGK Iridium plugs in. Didn't notice any difference and contrary to what some have experienced, my stock plugs had all the "pucks" on and were evenly gapped.

I'll second Greg's recommendation to R&R and use anti-seize.

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Hawkeye
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I was thinking along the same lines - just due
to time - R & R - and I have not seen anyone
post that there are better plugs than GM buys.

Jeff Y once told me that the car companies spend
a lot of time and research on plugs being made
to their specs. and there is little improvement
in a "stock" motor over the stock plug.

poSSum - what is "anti seize"?

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hawkeye:
I was thinking along the same lines - just due
to time - R & R - and I have not seen anyone
post that there are better plugs than GM buys.

Jeff Y once told me that the car companies spend
a lot of time and research on plugs being made
to their specs. and there is little improvement
in a "stock" motor over the stock plug.

poSSum - what is "anti seize"?

I'll answer that for Art.It is a brush on compound that will keep the 2 different metals from causing corrosion. The plug threads are steel and the head is aluminum,so all that is needed to make a good battery is water or moisture. [Smile]

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2002LESS-Harry
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quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:
I'll second Greg's recommendation to R&R and use anti-seize.

If you use anti seize, be careful not to get any into the combustion chamber. That stuff can destroy the oxygen sensors.

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Hawkeye
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Thanks, good tip - I'll be very careful. [Big Grin]

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

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I noticed that you have a 98. I have a 98 SS and when I replaced the plugs I had no problems until I got to the #8 plug were I had to remove the #6 & #8 coils from the valve cover to get to it. With the cat in the way I was unable to reach the #8 plug from the bottom. Just my $0.02 worth and experiences. Hope this helps if any at all..

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Hawkeye
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Thanks, already had that pleasure. Helped
Rock change the plugs on his 99. I had to
get #8 from underneath - his fat hands wouldn't
fit!

(running real fast now!)

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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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Z28-SORR
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Harry,
Let me apologize up front, this really is not personal.

quote:
If you use anti seize, be careful not to get any into the combustion chamber. That stuff can destroy the oxygen sensors
Please do not make these types of broad sweeping, illogical statements with out some techincal data to back them up.

It's illogical to think that the minute amounts of any of these product could cause the distruction of the oxygen sensors.
There are several hundereds of these product on the market all made from different base compounds.
Some are: copper/nickel, copper/lead, nickel/grahite, PTFE(Teflon), molybdenum disulfide, graphite/petrolatum, and zinc.

Many of these are recommended by the manufacturer for use on spark plugs.

If you do have some data on this, not personal anecdotes, please post it.

Sorry again, as you've probably guessed, this is one of my "pet peeves".

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Gen3Benz
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z28.....harry was talking about the grey stuff in the little plastic can with the brush on the cap, labeled....ANTI-SEIZE....but, my can says 02 sensor safe so i think youll be ok
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oops...was that illogical?? oh no?.....this post is though
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