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DAVE HOUNSELL
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Hi Guys,
Before I start I am sure this exact topic has
been dicussed many, many times in the past and I am sorry for that.
I recently put my car in a garage with flourescent lights above. Up untill this point I was alway's fairly satisfied with the
condition of the paint. With the lights shining on the black paint, alot of really fine scratches are noticeable when looking closely at the paint. My question is if anybody has used the 3M swirl mark remover?
Will this remove these really fine scratches?
I know the car is black and that I shouldn't
expect flawless paint but I would like to improve the condition a little. I guess the
easiest solution is to park the car back outside
I always said I would never buy a black car
but when buying used my choices were limited,
and when not looking so closely the car looks awesome I do use Zaino and am pleased with the results, I baby this car so maybe that is why I am so picky.
Thanks Guys,
sorry for the long message,
Dave

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1999 SS-Black,6 speed, Hard Top Coupe, Dual Duals, Car Cover
Key Fobs and Dash Plaque, SS Mats, SLP Rear Deck Mat, Chrome ZR1 Wheels, Clear MTI Lid & K&N filter
Waiting to install: Lou's Short Stick & SS Grille!

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DaddySS
Old Coot.....50 going on 20
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If you're using Z5 the swirl marks will continue to reduce with each application.

Haven't used the finesse but they swear it works.

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2000 SS Convertible, M6, Onyx
Ebony leather, Hurst, Monsoon, 12 CD
SLP Options: Syntech, Mats, Fobs, Plaque, Cover.
SLP add ons:SS Grille, SLP Lid & K&N, smooth bellows, SLP CAI....
Other Add Ons: TTS LT headers Y Pipe and Cats, TR 220, LS6 Intake, GMMG, ASP underdrive pulley, Hypertech 180 stat, Granatelli MAF, Rapid Motor Sports custom tuning, BMR STB, LCAs, Relocation brackets, Adj. Panhard, Don Goetz bolt on SFCs, Hotchkis springs, Hurst Billet Plus shifter
Appearance: FRCs with afterthoughts SS overlays, Mark's Caliper decals on black painted calipers, AR TTIIs (Gunmetal Spokes) with BFG Gforce T/A KDWs...

96 Impala SS Black
Flowmasters
SSOA, WCA, NAISSO


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NexuSS-6
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Hey Dave - welcome to the black car club!

I've gone through this entire ordeal over the past 7 months myself - to the point of even putting in a really low wattage bulb in the garage to minimize my stress level every night when exiting the car. Under really intense light, especially under the kind of lights you'll find at a gas station or in a parking garage, you will find a thousand flaws you've never seen before.

I steadfastly detailed every other day trying to combat these minor swirls and such - especially because my SS was only 4 or 5 months old and I refused to accept the fact that the finish wasn't 110% flawless! How in the hell could the hood and spoiler be that swirled?

I did in fact use the 3m swirl remover and it helped in certain areas that had become somewhat swirled. Namely the hood, spoiler, rear bumper and front nose...actually, the only spots that had swirls whatsoever. And, as I suspect is the case with you, these were *minor* swirls and spiderwebbing - you had to move your head side to side to see them appear.

The nose and bumper cleaned up beautifuly and the hood and spoiler did improve a bit but will both swirl if you so much as look at them. I've accepted that under a flashlight/microscope/parking lot lamp/combo of all of these I will see flaws in both and have just accepted the fact that in normal conditions, she look amazing.

Someting else I've adopted - I'm not sure if you can do the same. I drive my SS daily except during those days in which it rains (rarely snows here in Dallas). On those days, I get my wife to drop me off at the office. A bit crazy? Sure. Do I catch hell from all of my employees every single time this happens? You bet. But I've only had to wash (and more importantly, dry) my SS three times this year. The less I touch the finish, the longer it will last. I use a California duster about once a week with a spot detail of Z6 as needed. About once a month I give her a very in depth detail (Z6, full vaccum, dressing, etc). About every 2 months she gets a full bath - but dried with an Absorber (takes a bit longer to dry but it's well worth it - when I'm finished I only need dab the remaining spots with a towel vs. wiping or applying pressure).

It's discouraging to spend a weekend getting her perfect only to see every imperfection in your black finish when you park under a really intense light the very next evening. I avoid those lights like I avoid the rain now.

Hope this helps ya - good luck with her!

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o 2001 M6 SS 1LE Onyx/Ebony Hardtop (#1225)
o Y2Y : 1LE/g-Force TA KDs/Dual-Dual/Auburn/ZR1 5 spokes/SS grille/mats/fobs/cover/deck mat/portfolio)
o Mods : !CAGS / Hotchkis STB, LCAs, APHR / BMR LCA brackets / MTI Lid+K&N / 80-series Flow / Eibach Pro-Kit / FTRA


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Hawkeye
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That's black for you!! Gas station lights are the worst. Just keep Zainoing and be satisfied you've done all you can do, and accept that dark colours show spider webs.

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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NBM98SS
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Hi everyone,

Well I can tell you this Navy Blue is just as bad as Black. I bought my SS back in May 0f 98 and didn't know about Zaino at the time. I used just regular wax, and I did more harm than good. Zaino has done wonders to bring out the color of the Blue but the swirls are here to stay. Also when I picked up the car from the dealer they clean the car and polished it up for me.

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-Paul


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NexuSS-6
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Sorry this off topic!!

Hey Hawkeye - have you had a chance to look for your chromed scoop insert? Hate to bug ya but I just remembered when I saw your post here. No hurry - just wanted to know.

Thanks!


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Hawkeye
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quote:
Originally posted by NexuSS-6:
Sorry this off topic!!

Hey Hawkeye - have you had a chance to look for your chromed scoop insert? Hate to bug ya but I just remembered when I saw your post here. No hurry - just wanted to know.

Thanks!


Thanks for asking!!

What we did was take my original and bought some chrome paint and painted it. Total cost
about $8.00 Cdn. I could only find 2 places that would chrome plastic. One wanted $300 and one in British Columbia wanted $65. It looks great and really shows off the hood.




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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.


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RHT
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I'm part of the black SS club too. When I bought my car last year, the dealer wanted to sell me some type of protectant application. It cost about $300 bucks and was supposed to protect cars "like this one" with clear coats and hard to keep finishes. I did not take them up on the offer.

Has anyone else head of this application? If so, does it work?

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I bought an 03 Mustang Cobra!

Used to Have:
2000 Camaro SS #4038.
Onyx black / Ebony leather.
6 speed with all GM factory options.
Y2Y package; Bilstein, dual/dual, ZR1 chrome wheels, plaques,mats and synthetics.
Stock Dyno:
309rwhp 328rwtq


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DAVE HOUNSELL
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Most dealers have some sort of paint protectant. In my opinion it is nothing but
a scam! The New Car Dept probably
makes more off of undercoating, rustproofing, paint protectant,fabric protectant, and extended warranties than they do off of selling the car.
Maybe I am too negative?
By the way, thanks for the above reply's
Dave

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1999 SS-Black,6 speed, Hard Top Coupe, Dual Duals, Car Cover
Key Fobs and Dash Plaque, SS Mats, SLP Rear Deck Mat, Chrome ZR1 Wheels, Clear MTI Lid & K&N filter
Waiting to install: Lou's Short Stick & SS Grille!

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Hawkeye
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Ya - they polish it for $300.00.

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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