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Harry P
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I know the 'vettes have them... What about the SS? I heard a local boy in his late model Corvette just got nailed at 108 mph DRUNK when he collided with and killed an innocent person... the black box recorded all kinds of vital and incriminating information at the instant the air bags deployed.

In this case, it is a good thing. The guy deserves to be locked away for a while. Still, I can only imagine where this might lead in twenty years (insurance agent: "Harry, the box here says you went 140 mph last week." Harry: "I was driving on a private, legal road, not a public road way." insurance agent: "Sorry, racing on a track is not covered by your policy, you're dropped.", or maybe, "No, according to the GPS data, you were running up the NE Extension of the PA Turnpike.")



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Far as I know we have a recorder as well ... it's under the console.

I read an article about a city that started putting them in their police cruisers .... reduced the number of collisions they were involved in by half


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HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS
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Here's link that includes a case study on a collision between a Camaro and an SUV, along with other interesting examples and links: Vetronix Crash Data Retrieval System

Here's a USA Today article about a black box lawsuit: GM sued over automobile 'black boxes'

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The black box that records data ,speed etc. is actually an air bag module. Tells how hard the impact was and other data.
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Thanks for the articles Teri, they were very informative. I didn't know my car had this. I'll have to go back and re-read my owner's manual and see what it says.

This raises very interesting and serious questions over protections of our privacies. People don't like to fnd out they've been under "covert" surveillance. I'll be curious to know how the courts will rule on the admissability of this data. Depending on the circumstances, it could raise possible 5th Ammendment concerns if the vehicle owner refuses to grant permission for the data to be downloaded.

Now that the police are aware of it, how long would it be before they had the tools to download this data remotely for use in traffic enforcement? Not to be an alarmist, but it would sure unclog traffic court if they had the data that basically catches a motorist in the act.

Hmmmm...............

Andy


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Harry P
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And how long before that five seconds of data stretches out to say, oh I don't know, ten years? With a GPS tied in, big brother will know where you've been and how fast you got there at any given time... Alarmist, yes, but given the ever present "two percent crack pots" out there, this may become another form of erosion of our Constitutional freedom once hailed by our citizens, but alas, lost little by little in the name of "safety".

Often enough, safety and freedom don't compliment one another.

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