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I was looking for a Harley and finally decided I couldn't afford one. So, I told the dealer (they were awesome all along). He said two things.
1. He is looking for a 69 Camaro SS/RS that someone would be willing to trade/deal for a Harley. Also thinking about a numbers matching big block 70 Chevelle SS. If he could find that, I could get me a Harley at a great deal. So, if you know anything.......
2. He has a 1970 454 Chevelle SS now that he would sell to me. It was restored 14 years ago and needs a complete restoration now. It is not numbers matching. What should I look for to determine its value? I was thinking it would be a great project for me and my son in law as a car that we could make look nice and drive. But I don't want to pay too much for it. What should I ask about?
Thanks, Dan
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...the first thing would be to look at the car and try to determine how much work it needs. Rust repair and bodywork eat up a lot of $$$ (and time) to fix right. If it's a northern car a complete undercarriage inspection would reveal what damage salt has done...I have seen cars that look pretty decent up top that are absolute basket cases underneath. Since it's not a number's matching car you have a lot more latitude with the drivetrain…if the engine mechanicals are not in good shape a crate engine is a viable option, and transmission problems are fairly easy to correct. You also need to get a budget in your head as far as how much total outlay you’re going to be able to handle…
…once you’ve done that you’ll be better able to determine how much the car is worth to you…
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Dan on the 1970 Chevelle,the most common places they seem to rust are the rear-lower front fenders,door corners,rear 1/4's above and behind the rear wheel well,truck floor,deck lid inner seam area and the deck panel below the rear back glass.Check all of these areas with a magnet.A true SS Chevelle will have a big block(since in 1970 they were the only available engines),boxed rear control arms,12 bolt differential,clear front parking lights,round gages(with or without factory gage cluster,not a rectangular speedo like a Malibu),a rubber SS pad on the rear bumper.The cowl tag should have the RPO option code Z26 for the SS package.Being non numbers matching will not bring as much money as a numbers matching.I have seen 1970 SS Chevelles on the www.traderonline.com site from anywhere from $5,000 to $40,000. I guess documentation would also help the cars value. Get some pictures of it.I used to be into Chevelles and 1st Gen Monte Carlos for a long time and have owned them.
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quote:Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977: He is looking for a 69 Camaro SS/RS that someone would be willing to trade/deal for a Harley.
Steve and Teri are selling their '69! Maybe you could work with them.
Sorry to hear the Harley fell through. I go past the local Harley dealer every day on my way to work and I have been wondering if you found the bike you wanted.
If the Chevelle needs a complete restoration then you should be able to get a good price out of it. It's hard to say without seeing it but I have seen some in the local ads here for around 10,000 that need a little work and others that are fully restored going for 35,000. Hemmings I think used to have a price guide for classic cars. I haven't been on there for a while though.
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Thanks!! Great stuff. I checked Hemmings and did a search earlier. The prices of a real original done right is really high! So, I may be onto something here. Greg stuff is where I'll start to make sure it really is a Chevell SS. The only thing I know now is that it is a 454 non numbers matching. He says it should run. He out it away and hasn't touched it. I'll see if he has any pictures! Thanks again. I'll look closely.
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1970 is my all time favorite year for the Chevelle.Here is a nice one that I saw at the 131 Motorsports Park this August.Note the clear front parking lens and the rear bumper rubber SS pad.The hood pins were optional.
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Another thing you can do, and this is a pretty good gauge on the value of cars. Check out the autos on ebay. Campare a numbers matching car price and look at what they are going for for frame off restoration projects. This of course is not full proof, but a good way to tell. Example 70 SS, numbers matching fully restored = $24,000, and so on.
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Hemmings I think used to have a price guide for classic cars. I haven't been on there for a while though.
