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I was trying to downsize into a smaller house with a bigger garage especially since my son will be moved out at the end of this month so I really did not need a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom house.Well our real estate lady owns this brand new house on 1.66 acres and really wants to sell it.It needs everything since there is no deck,lawn,trees,driveway,ect.I put a bid on it last night.Comes with a small barn that I could fit 6 cars in.The attached garage will fit 3 cars.Bad thing is that it is on a dirt road since anything that has a large lot on pavement is way more than I can afford. Well it's a 4 bedroom 3 bathroom house too! We never ever had a brand new house before...that would be nice but not a necessity.So much for downsizing!
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Im envious... that is a nice place. You buying what I need a house with a 3 car and or a barn.... maybe in the next year or two... My first house I bought that I live in right now was new.... you'll keep busy even with a new house... landscaping... window covering etc. etc.
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Man thats what I need LOL . Hope everything goes your way on the house . just think of all the Car fix up parties you will have with this place and Garage . Good luck see you soon
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Great looking Greg. What City ? Hope you get it
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The master bedroom From the master bedroom to the master bath with his and hers closets Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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And a few more pictures.I really like to hear any comments from you guys.This is a lot of money for me and I want to make sure it is the right house.I do not plan on moving again, so this will be my last house.
Huge upper bedroom.I would make this the master bedroom.
Living room
Kitchen cabinets
The smallest bedroom that I would make a computer room/office. Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed: Great looking Greg. What City ? Hope you get it
Ed,it is a couple of minutes from downtown Belleville. There is no house with a nice size lot or just land in Canton or Plymouth that I can afford. Good thing I saved the newspaper where it mentions that Canton is the 10th safest city in the country.That should help me sell my house.Plus the Plymouth/Canton Schools are one of the best in the state. Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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Very nice house you found there. Plenty of garage space and neutral colors to work with on the interior. Now can I make a suggestion?..........Move to Ohio! so I can build you a new home.The guys are all sitting around waiting for the weather to break so we can get back to building. You and Kathy can have your choice of 2 specs currently up or we will build to suit. I know....the flatlands of Ohio are not what you are looking for. Can't blame you, Michigan looked nice this past weekend for the NAIAS.
See you at a show soon
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House looks great and the area is a fantastic buy at this time . Sister puts her boat on the lake there and a friend has the white 2 story that you can see from Belleville road (Off Quirk/sp).You shouldn't go wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed: House looks great and the area is a fantastic buy at this time . Sister puts her boat on the lake there and a friend has the white 2 story that you can see from Belleville road (Off Quirk/sp).You shouldn't go wrong.
There are a few older houses on the street since this used to be farmland.Many big new homes being built with nice size lots. It is also nice to drive down Beleville Road across the lake.Great views! The realator says she thinks this area will be the next Canton. If I get this house we can have a huge car show in the back yard! Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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Greg.........are you sure you can deal with a dirt road? You can never keep your car clean. I speak from experience! If it isn't mud then it's dust. If they use gravel on the road you still get dust AND rock chips.
Personally, I will never ever own a house on a dirt road. I don't mean to sound negative because the place looks real nice, but you may want to think further about the dirt road.
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quote:Originally posted by SS_CarGuy: Greg.........are you sure you can deal with a dirt road? You can never keep your car clean. I speak from experience! If it isn't mud then it's dust. If they use gravel on the road you still get dust AND rock chips.
Personally, I will never ever own a house on a dirt road. I don't mean to sound negative because the place looks real nice, but you may want to think further about the dirt road.
I have thought about the dirt road for a long time and normally would never even drive my Sonoma on one.The problem is finding a lot that is big enough for another garage or pole barn that is not an hour drive to work, yet still close enough to the city for shopping.If I buy this house I will probably not drive the SS as much as I used to after work and on the weekends and probably have to buy an enclosed trailer.Luckily the road is barely traveled and was in good shape even when it was raining.I could crawl down it.Heck a good friend of mine that owns at least 25 Camaros including a 2002 600 hp ZL1(Wonderful 1),lives on a dirt road.If this neighborhood is anything like the ones near me that used to be on dirt and are now paved...the prices of the houses went up $200,000 or more, so maybe one day they will get paved.
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Greg - congrats! Looks just like what you were looking for. No home is perfect. The dirt road is something you can live with, or will change in time.
How about stairs? As you age, I'm told that stairs often become as issue. Are there services in the garage/barn? Heat, lights, water etc. Is there a basement? Well water or city water? A drain in the barn?
I like it, but just trying to give you a few things to think about. How long a drive to work for you / Kathy?
When's the moving party? I'm there to help!
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OK.....if you can deal with the dirt road, that's fine.
Having built a house and barn on 46 acres in Ohio before we relocated to South Carolina, I know you will enjoy the country. I also know about some of the issues with country living. I noticed your barn roof is metal. Did they insulate the roof with anything or is there bare metal showing? If it's the latter (bare), it will sweat on you during the winter when the humidity is high. This will also happen in the spring. The same thing is true of the sidewalls but the ceiling will drip. On a minimum basis, if the roof isn't insulated, you probably should cover it with something. Of course you will need something for yard work like a mower or a tractor. Buy a small GARDEN TRACTOR (Cub Cadet or a John Deere would be my choice).....and don't skimp on it. If you buy a cheapie, it won't last. That way you can put a plw on it for your driveway in the winter and maybe a tiller if you have a garden. You can allso use the tiller to put your yard in.
Do you have well water? If so do you know what your recovery rate id in Gallons per Minute? A good GPH is 10 or more. If it is a well, you may also have to buy a softner and possibly a carbon filter if the water is not very good. I also had a generator because we lost our power a lot on in the boonies.
I am sure you will enjoy the house. It looks very nice!
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quote:Originally posted by Hawkeye: Greg - congrats! Looks just like what you were looking for. No home is perfect. The dirt road is something you can live with, or will change in time.
How about stairs? As you age, I'm told that stairs often become as issue. Are there services in the garage/barn? Heat, lights, water etc. Is there a basement? Well water or city water? A drain in the barn?
I like it, but just trying to give you a few things to think about. How long a drive to work for you / Kathy?
When's the moving party? I'm there to help!
Brian,the stairs was a question of mine but we really don't need to use the whole upstairs.How do you like the stairs in your home?
No electric,gas or water in the barn but I can install that myself without any real trouble.
No basement but the house is on a 4' crawl space that is heated and has lights with plastic floor. House is connected to city water but has a septic tank.
The house may be about the same to get to work even though it is a little farther but the hi way is closer..if that makes sense. It is 15-17 ,miles from my current house.Closer to Milan Dragway!
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Very nice! That shop would make it worth it for me! I love having a concrete floor in my shop. We have 6 acres, and a county road (asphault)...We wouldn't trade it for the world!Good luck with it!
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Great - hope you get it! As for the stairs, Mary and I already have blue prints for a new home, one day, where the master is on the main floor, so stairs won't be a problem. I figure about 10 more years in our current home, then we'll build, where I can have some "car" space!
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Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot. Posts: 5558 | From: Windsor, Ontario. Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Hawkeye: Great - hope you get it! As for the stairs, Mary and I already have blue prints for a new home, one day, where the master is on the main floor, so stairs won't be a problem. I figure about 10 more years in our current home, then we'll build, where I can have some "car" space!
Our ideal house would be a ranch.There is a nice ranch that is for sale by owner that we had our eye on.Still on a dirt road but shorter distance.The only problem was a very small laundry room.It had another detached garage that was very nice also on .56 acre.Even that is enough land.Kathy thinks the new house area will bring more return in the future.
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Greg, the place looks very nice. It looks like some landscaping may be required and that's something else to consider.
I agree with SS_CarGuy about the lawn tractor advice. I got a new John Deere LX 178 in 1995 when we bought our current home and I cut about two thirds of an acre with it. I've had no problems whatsoever with it (except for replacing the battery last year). I also have the 38" snowthrower for it so it's a year round implement for me.
Does the weeping bed for the septic system interfere with any future plans for a pool? Our pool is right beside our house and we wouldn't have installed a pool if it meant putting it 50 feet or more away from the house.
If it's what you really want and can afford, I say go for it. Good luck with your plans!
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I agree with Kathy on that one. Plus a new house, I assume you have some sort of warranty like they do here.
If it's meant to be, it wil happen. Yours will be sold and this one will fall into place.
Good Luck!
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All I get are red x's but I am sure that its a great house Greg. Congrats and hope you get it. Posts: 2841 | From: Westland, MI | Registered: Apr 2003
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I decided last night (or was it this morning at 2:30am)that I will not accept the counter offer and walk away from the house.If I can't sleep over it...it ain't worth it! Thanks for all of the input that everyone gave.That really helped me make this decision.The biggest factor was that darn dirt road! I am very picky about keeping the SS clean and would be going crazy with the constant cleaning.Another thing is that we wanted a 1 story ranch home with no stairs unless they are basement stairs.Last thing is all of the money needed to do the landscape,deck, fence for the dogs and get the garages the way I would like them. Can't wait to hear the reaction from the realator/home owner this morning.
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quote:Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS: I decided last night (or was it this morning at 2:30am)that I will not accept the counter offer and walk away from the house.If I can't sleep over it...it ain't worth it! Thanks for all of the input that everyone gave.That really helped me make this decision.The biggest factor was that darn dirt road! I am very picky about keeping the SS clean and would be going crazy with the constant cleaning.Another thing is that we wanted a 1 story ranch home with no stairs unless they are basement stairs.Last thing is all of the money needed to do the landscape,deck, fence for the dogs and get the garages the way I would like them. Can't wait to hear the reaction from the realator/home owner this morning.
You probably made the right choice here Greg. After seeing all the pictures of your car and how carefully you detail them, I didn't think you would be happy at all with the dirt road. When I was young and single (a long time ago) I lived on a dirt road and there was no way to keep my car clean no matter how hard I tried. I mean this was an everday problem not just a once-in-awhile issue so I swore I would never live on a dirt road again!
Take your time on finding your next house. There will be something out there to suit you just fine.
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You are right about the outside. We have over 40K into ours and you have seen the size of our lot. The outside Will cost more than you think taking away from the other projects you and Kathy would like to do.
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Too bad it didn't work out, Greg. I agree with your concerns about the landscaping and the dirt road.
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I guess it just didn't feel right - it wasn't meant to be. Landscaping is very expensive. Just to "refresh" our landscaping 2 years ago was $11,000. But it can be done, a little at a time and by yourself for the most part. The dirt road would knaw away at you every time you drove the SS. At least the realtor knows what you want, and something will turn up. It always does!
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Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot. Posts: 5558 | From: Windsor, Ontario. Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Hawkeye: I guess it just didn't feel right - it wasn't meant to be. Landscaping is very expensive. Just to "refresh" our landscaping 2 years ago was $11,000. But it can be done, a little at a time and by yourself for the most part. The dirt road would knaw away at you every time you drove the SS. At least the realtor knows what you want, and something will turn up. It always does!
I did not want to live in what appeared to be a 1/2 finished house for an extended period of time. Not just the landscaping,but it needs a driveway and the barn has no utilities either.Plus I would have to buy a riding mower.I guess I would never have the cash to get SFC's for the SS.Just did not feel good thinking that it may take me a couple of years to get the house like I wanted it.
quote:Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS: Just did not feel good thinking that it may take me a couple of years to get the house like I wanted it.
Couple of years not bad timing at all to have it ALL done. 6 years later we Still dont have curtains on the family room and kitchen at the back of the house . Wife can't make up her mind Go Figure .
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I let the realator know that this was not the house for me. She wants me to take a few days to think about it.If I can't sleep tonight,I will walk away from this house for good. Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS: I let the realator know that this was not the house for me. She wants me to take a few days to think about it.If I can't sleep tonight,I will walk away from this house for good.
I guess it will come down to where you want to spend your money & your time. For some people their house is their hobby, landscaping, gardening, etc. Unfortunately that's not for me. We've moved around a lot with my job, and we've always bought a 5 to 10 year old house that meets our needs (# of bedrooms, garage, quality, etc.). That way most of the problems have been fixed (or at least visible), landscaping's done and the surrounding area is usually developed (no surprises like a factory or shopping mall being built next door). With some relatively minor time & money - redecorating and landscaping - we have gotten each house up to our standards. That way we're able to spend the majority of our free time on what we really want to do (like Zainoing the SS ).
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quote:Originally posted by LT14SHOW: Nice house Greg. I hope you get it.
Steve,the real nice thing about this house is we could have our own Camaro Superfest in that huge yard. The down side it scares me when I think about the price of the house. My 1st house was only $55,000.
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quote:Originally posted by LT14SHOW: Nice house Greg. I hope you get it.
Steve,the real nice thing about this house is we could have our own Camaro Superfest in that huge yard. The down side it scares me when I think about the price of the house. My 1st house was only $55,000.
I know what you mean Greg about how price keeps going up. My 1st house new on a 1 acre lot 3 bed room was $12.500 in 1963 the second house was $38,000 and the next was $109,000 and I now have a 7 room ranch still with 2 baths on 4 acres of land with 2 acres in yard and 20 minutes from work. I love the country
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