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Originally posted by cytruffle:
Okaaaaayyyyyyy......I guess I qualify as a "classic", too, huh???? I am "over 25" as of yesterday.....

DON'T A ONE OF YA ANSWER THAT!!!!!!!!!

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....congrats, Greg! It's a REALLY beautiful car!!

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Millie only by 4 years though .

Greg the car looks great still. Would look strange seeing Historical plates on a F-Body though .

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Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed:
Would look strange seeing Historical plates on a F-Body though .

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I can't BELIEVE it's been 25 years since the Berlinettas came out!! What's the history on them? Were they supposed to be like a "luxury" Camaro or something??

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Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed:
Would look strange seeing Historical plates on a F-Body though .

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I can't BELIEVE it's been 25 years since the Berlinettas came out!! What's the history on them? Were they supposed to be like a "luxury" Camaro or something??

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Originally posted by SS_CarGuy:
Great looking Camaro. I noticed it has the same steering wheel I had in my 1972 Nova SS. I wonder how many years GM used that wheel.

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As far as I know that steering wheel design was started to be used Chevrolet in 1971. It was standard on the Vega GT and Camaro,optional on the Nova,Chevelle and Monte Carlo and Monza.GM used it until 1981 on the Camaro.The 1977-1981 Z28 got the same wheel with a molded in rope type grip which made the wheel real thick.

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Originally posted by ss_rs_z:
You got it Millie. They were suppose to be the "luxury" style Camaro. But it didn't go over so it was discontinued.

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ohhhh....ok....I remember drooling over a navy blue one back in the day....couldn't afford one then.....glad I have my babyT now!!! he ROCKS!!

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Originally posted by chrisL:
and it looks like its only 25 days old Greg!

congrats!

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Thanks Chris! My son enjoyed reading this thread.

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Originally posted by HTWLSS:
That one needs to be submitted to Camaro World. They need some good examples of 2nd Gen cars!

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Teri, I did in December.I e-mailed the story and pictures to Andy Archer and have not heard anything since.I just don't have real good pictures with scenery. The hood is steel and was never painted,so it makes it tough for a good picture. Maybe one day it will grace the pages of Camaro World!

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Originally posted by CamaroSSgal:
That is one very nice 'Netta!!! It is weird how much your son's Netta and our son's Netta has in common. We bought his also from the original owner and we also have all the original paperwork including the build sheet!! Interior is exactly the same color, but our son's is a 4 speed manual. I have watched what you guys have done to the 'Netta...great ideas for us for when we buy it back from him some day!!! Car's like that, can not leave the family!

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I can't wait to see more pictures of your son's Netta along the way too!

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You got it Millie. They were suppose to be the "luxury" style Camaro. But it didn't go over so it was discontinued.

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ohhhh....ok....I remember drooling over a navy blue one back in the day....couldn't afford one then.....glad I have my babyT now!!! he ROCKS!!

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Not my type of Camaro. They should be performance oriented as far as I am concerned.

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Not my type of Camaro. They should be performance oriented as far as I am concerned.

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I agree.....I was just desperate to have another Camaro....I'm sooooo glad I waited!!

Wasn't that during the "energy crunch" era where they cut way back on performance engines?? ...little fuzzy on my history....

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OMG!! I LOVE them!! "Don't Stop Believin'"

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No - I did not have the "mullet", but now that I am a camaro owner again - hmmmmmmmmmmm.

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Originally posted by ss_rs_z:
Not my type of Camaro. They should be performance oriented as far as I am concerned.

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But this one is not lacking any performance. Remember back then the Federal Government wanted strick emmissions and insurance companies wanted to see the HP levels go down. They suceeded.The original 305ci V8 with a 2 barrel carburator would not even do a break torque with a open rear differential.Now that this car sports a date coded 1970 LS6...it has some serious power but major traction problems.
At last years Berger Chevy Show, Berger rented U.S. 131 Motorsports Park for a little drag racing.This car was fresh, just being thrown together the morning of Camaro Superfest. It made a tire smoking 1.89 second 60' and ran 93mph in the 1/8th mile. It would have had a lot more but a stock AC Delco 454 mechanicle fuel pump will not support 500 + hp and the car bogged badly from the 1/8 mile to the finish line. Some fuel system work and this car should easily run low 12's to mid to high 11's.




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Originally posted by 02 BlackHawk:
Damn, that interior looks cleaner that the one in my Hawk!!!

Great looking car

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Thanks! The car started out Dark Carmine with the Dark Carmine Custom Interior (Berlinetta came standard with the Custom Interior Option and the U14 Special Instrumentation packages). It was just too much of the Dark Carmine.I bought my son a brand new headliner,rear parcel shelf,carpet,trunk mat,sun visors,seat covers and floor mats for his High School Graduation gift.I dyed the crash panel,lower dash,console,steering column and steering wheel,interior plastic and door panels.The original 25 year old door panels are like new and not offered by any catalog company.I chose to leave the carpet at the bottom of the door panels Dark Carmine because carpet does not take dye very well.One day we will have a trim shop sew in the correct color carpet.The ineterior color is not the 1979 Buckskin color but instead it is 1974 Camaro Light Saddle Tan. Goes well with the 1972 GM code 72 Red paint.The seat belts were real hard to find used in Tan.Again too hard to dye the seatbelts.

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Not my type of Camaro. They should be performance oriented as far as I am concerned.

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But this one is not lacking any performance. Remember back then the Federal Government wanted strick emmissions and insurance companies wanted to see the HP levels go down. They suceeded.The original 305ci V8 with a 2 barrel carburator would not even do a break torque with a open rear differential.Now that this car sports a date coded 1970 LS6...it has some serious power but major traction problems.
At last years Berger Chevy Show, Berger rented U.S. 131 Motorsports Park for a little drag racing.This car was fresh, just being thrown together the morning of Camaro Superfest. It made a tire smoking 1.89 second 60' and ran 93mph in the 1/8th mile. It would have had a lot more but a stock AC Delco 454 mechanicle fuel pump will not support 500 + hp and the car bogged badly from the 1/8 mile to the finish line. Some fuel system work and this car should easily run low 12's to mid to high 11's.

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No I wasn't saying yours fit in with my commentary Greg. I know just what yours can do.........LOL.

I was mostly talking about the other "Berlinettas".

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Originally posted by ss_rs_z:
Not my type of Camaro. They should be performance oriented as far as I am concerned.

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I was mostly talking about the other "Berlinettas".


Ken,like I said the original 305 with an open 2.41 rear axle ratio would not even do a single spin brake torque! LOL! But still a 1978-1981 Z28 was still faster than most cars back then even with the low hp numbers.

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Originally posted by ss_rs_z:
True I agree with you there Greg. I know hp ratings were low back then and didn't start going up until the mid 80's. And thank God for that.

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I guess you could say that my son and I put the performance in the car that GM should have.What were they thinking installing a 130hp 305 V8 into the heaviest body Camaro ever?

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Thats a good question Greg. But you know with the price of gasoline back then skyrocketing......kinda like it is now........the emissions being put on and the government and insurance industry.......guess GM was thinking ( and not properly here ) how they could make an econo Camaro but still with a V8.

Kinda scary I would say.

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That is where technology is king! We have good power and fuel economy from our LS1 Camaros. Plus ours don't weigh as much.

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Originally posted by ss_rs_z:
Thats a good question Greg. But you know with the price of gasoline back then skyrocketing......kinda like it is now........the emissions being put on and the government and insurance industry.......guess GM was thinking ( and not properly here ) how they could make an econo Camaro but still with a V8.

Kinda scary I would say.

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That is where technology is king! We have good power and fuel economy from our LS1 Camaros. Plus ours don't weigh as much.

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Gotta love it.
But of course cars were alot easier to work on back then.