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Opie
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Replacing my garage door and have a question. Has anyone put on a stainable steel garage door?
Wife wants the garage door to look like the brown wood front door. All wood contruction doors are more than I am willing to pay for a place I want to leave.

I am looking at a Taylor door. Was shown a prop (sample) of door with stain and looked great. I was just wondering if anyone has done this and if any problems or how it went. Thanks...

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2002Z4CSS
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I installed my new Clopay garage door and Genie Excellerator electric opener a couple of years ago.It is a 7/8 foam insulated door with torsion springs. My son and I removed the old door,cut it up into small pieces with a cutting torch and installed the new door with all new tracks and opener in 6 hours and we never did that kind of work before. I can't tell you about about staining a metal door. Painting that door should not be a problem. How do they make the stain look like wood?

Now the recent problem I had was the door broke a torsion spring. I went to Home Depot where I ordered the door(since I ordered it in almond color) and the people working there said they would not sell me a new spring and it would have to be installed by a professional.I said I bought the whole door from them and they actually started telling me there is no way I did. Home Depot even delivered it to my house for an extra cost. I called the manufacture and inquired about a new spring and was told the same song and dance.They said they do not sell Home Depot any garage doors with a torsion spring. I wanted to tell them to shove the reciept for that door up their ....
I finally found a local garage door company that sold me the springs with no questions asked.

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Bill Mason
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The reluctance to sell you a torsion spring may be a liability issue. Those springs exert a lot of force when they are wound up. If you are not careful when installing them and using the right tools, you could get seriously injured if the spring lets go or breaks. Especially if you are standing in front of it. Years ago I saw one let go.....do not care to experience THAT again!! [Eek!] [Eek!]

The last time I installed a double door, my neighbor brought over some steel rods he had made at a machine shop to turn the springs. These were a very good idea and made the job a lot easier and much safer.

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2002Z4CSS
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quote:
Originally posted by Bill Mason:
The reluctance to sell you a torsion spring may be a liability issue. Those springs exert a lot of force when they are wound up. If you are not careful when installing them and using the right tools, you could get seriously injured if the spring lets go or breaks. Especially if you are standing in front of it. Years ago I saw one let go.....do not care to experience THAT again!! [Eek!] [Eek!]

The last time I installed a double door, my neighbor brought over some steel rods he had made at a machine shop to turn the springs. These were a very good idea and made the job a lot easier and much safer.

I used Snap-On 3/8 extensions and they fit perfectly to wind up the springs. I was told there was a liability concern with those springs but why did Home Depot sell me a door that is considered illegal in their minds? Was it Home Depots fault or the manufacture that sent the door.I told them what is the difference if someone buys a John Deere mower from them and they cut their foot off? If they sold me a door they were not supposed to,then they should have sent me the proper spring set up at no charge. I was just getting the run around.I chose to replace both torsion springs and it was a very easy install.

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Opie
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In the 6 yrs we have been living here in Brighton I have replaced cables and springs. No problem buying parts from garage door company.

Talked with another rep from Taylor doors. I am going to order one and give it a try. Was explained the stain will stick and dry, then you coat it with Polyurethane. Very similar to the carbon fiber front door I installed 3 years ago.

Thanks for replies...I have never known anyone who has stained a steel door before. Oh well I'll let ya know how is turns out. 3 weeks to get the door and a week to stain and urethane it.

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Cavy Dan
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My parents bought an alluminum insulated garage door a few years ago and i beleive it doesn't have any springs. I will check what type of door it is when i go home tonight.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cavy Dan:
My parents bought an alluminum insulated garage door a few years ago and i beleive it doesn't have any springs. I will check what type of door it is when i go home tonight.

Most garage doors that I have ever seen have some kind of spring unless it does not weigh much. A torsion spring will be up across the top of the door. The kind that follow the side of the door can break and damage a vehicle. I had those before with my old door and one spring broke and dented the heck of the deck lid of my old Cadillac. Problem was I just repainted that car a month before!
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Hawkeye
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What is the cost difference to a real wood one?

The stainable ones I've seen vary from nice to
awful depending on who stained it. I have a
cedar door, that I really should oil again this
year, but it does the job and looks good.

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Cavy Dan
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quote:
Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS:
quote:
Originally posted by Cavy Dan:
My parents bought an alluminum insulated garage door a few years ago and i beleive it doesn't have any springs. I will check what type of door it is when i go home tonight.

Most garage doors that I have ever seen have some kind of spring unless it does not weigh much. A torsion spring will be up across the top of the door. The kind that follow the side of the door can break and damage a vehicle. I had those before with my old door and one spring broke and dented the heck of the deck lid of my old Cadillac. Problem was I just repainted that car a month before!
Must be a pretty small spring or hidden...our old one was a huge black spring that stretched across the top of the door near the ceiling.
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Opie
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Hawkeye,
If you have a cedar door take care of it. Stain, treat, whatever... They are very expensive. I priced Hemlock (much cheaper than cedar) and it was 4 times higher than steel.

Wife will have me in the garage staining, ect., ect., until the thing looks right or the way she wants it. Almost talked her into buying a pre painted (limited colors), but then I wouldn't have enough work to do... [Big Grin] Every day above ground is a good one.

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Cavy Dan
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Here are pics and details for our garage. I dont know who makes it cause my parents went through some distributor. Its aluminum, light, and insulated. (Less work the garage openor has to do) And I can tell a HUG difference in the insulating as our prvious wooden one woudlnt keep our garage as warm (for working on da cars, etc). Sorry if this is too many pics....just wanted to get details for ya. Oh and the one pic is out neighbors, showing it with glass panes in it. They have the same type door as us.

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