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Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 21 February, 2001 09:20 AM:
 
Check out some pictures of the installation:

http://intergrafix.net/~sps3936/cam

HUGE difference in performance! I only have to touch the gas pedal now and she leaps!

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Steve SSOA M99-3864
NJ State Trooper #3936 (retired)
Life Member of: Veterans of Foreign Wars & Vietnam Veterans of America
1999 Sebring Silver Camaro SS #3864, grey leather, A4, Pioneer DEH-P77DH CD player/receiver, T-Top, ASR traction control, rear window defogger
SLP Engineering options: dual-dual exhaust, Bilstein suspension, and Auburn rear
Personal mods: Solaris xenon headlamp bulbs, Whisper lid, K&N air filter, SLP subframe connectors, Hotchkis shock tower brace, SLP Power-Flo y-pipe, DynoMax Ultra Flo muffler, muffler bypass mod, Jet Stage 2 PCM, Hypertech 180 degree thermostat, MSD 8.5mm Super Conductor spark plug wires, P275/40ZR17 Michelin Pilot Sport tires (front)/Nitto NT-555R Drag Radials (rear) on American Racing 200S wheels, Wings West front grille insert, carbon fiber fuel rail covers, Yank Torque Thruster 2800 converter, Moroso tranny cooler, Comp Cams custom cam (214/216 .521/.523 115)

Best ET: 13.155 Best MPH: 106.57 Best 60': 2.062 (before drag radials & cam) http://www.intergrafix.net/~sps3936
 


Posted by poSSum (Member # 119) on 21 February, 2001 09:56 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by XTrooper:
Check out some pictures of the installation:

http://intergrafix.net/~sps3936/cam

HUGE difference in performance! I only have to touch the gas pedal now and she leaps!


Nice job Steve. Looking forward to seeing how you do at the track with the new combination.

 


Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on 21 February, 2001 10:07 AM:
 
Thanks for the photos - keep us posted.

Let us know how it runs, any problems?


 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 21 February, 2001 10:16 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkeye:
Thanks for the photos - keep us posted.

Let us know how it runs, any problems?


You WOULD ask that!

I'm having a little idling problem at the moment, but I'm working on it.

Hopefully, I'll have it corrected by day's end. I'll keep you posted.

Steve
 


Posted by Happy_Dan (Member # 118) on 21 February, 2001 10:17 AM:
 
That's great Steve. can't wait to see it go at SLP day!
 
Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on 22 February, 2001 06:24 AM:
 
How's the idle?

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2000 SS Convertible, M6, Onyx
Ebony leather, Hurst, Monsoon, 12 CD
SLP: SS Grille, SLP Lid & K&N, Syntech, Mats, Phobs, Plaque, Cover
96 Impala SS Black
SSOA, NYFE, F-Body, NAISSO
 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 22 February, 2001 07:01 AM:
 
As of about 12:30 AM last night, I've got it idling smoother than it was with the stock cam! Yeah, baby!

Steve
 


Posted by SS RRR (Member # 726) on 22 February, 2001 09:44 AM:
 
What cam did you go with?

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96 SS #597 M6
60' 1.70 on BFG drag radials
12.12 @ 114.2mph
 


Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on 22 February, 2001 10:38 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by SS RRR:
What cam did you go with?



check the photos - info is there.


Way to go Steve - now the proof of the pudding, lets see how she runs.


 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 22 February, 2001 10:58 AM:
 
Competition Cams custom grind:

214/216 .521/.523 115 LSA
 


Posted by Happy_Dan (Member # 118) on 22 February, 2001 11:09 AM:
 
Steve, can you tell us about the problem with idle and how you solved it?

Thanks,
Dan
 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 22 February, 2001 01:07 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977:
Steve, can you tell us about the problem with idle and how you solved it?

Thanks,
Dan


Sure, Dan. The idle problem isn't so much with the cam as it is with the '99 and newer "Desired Idle Speed" at set by some moron at GM. The "DIS" is set at 650 rpm out of gear (Park or Neutral) and only 550 rpm while in gear (Drive, OD, or Reverse). This is where the problem lies. With the DIS set that low while in gear that idle speed won't adequately sustain any aftermarket cam but the very mildest. I might add that on the '98s, the DIS was set at 750 rpm in and out of gear, a much more sensible number.
Anyway, because of the slightly rougher idle inherent in my relatively mild cam in combination with the low DIS of my PCM, the idle of the car while out of gear was pretty rough, but liveable. In gear, the idle was, of course, even worse and was sometimes on the verge of stalling which it did a few times while I was backing slowly out of our driveway. Worse than the very rough idle in gear was the PCM "searching" for the proper idle speed. This is commonly called surging and, in my case, the idle would go up and down between about 400 to 550 rpm and never settle on one speed. This was VERY aggravating. The solution to all of this, of course, was to just raise the idle speed by 100 rpm or so, but that's not an easy task with these cars. The days of a few turns of a screwdriver are long gone.
Following the advise of others, I drilled out the hole found in the throttle body blade 1/64" at a time, trying to improve the idle quality. I ended up with a 7/32" hole and this did improve things, but not considerably. I finally altered the idle position by glueing a .025" thick spacer under the idle stop plate. This keeps the throttle from going all the way down and raised my idle speed about 50 rpm which is all I needed. Believe it or not, but that 50 rpm has made all the difference in the world. Incredibly, it now idles out of gear BETTER than it did with the stock cam. In gear, the idle is still a little rough, but nothing really objectionable and problem of surging and/or stalling are completely gone. Yahoo!

Steve


 


Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on 22 February, 2001 01:23 PM:
 
sounds cool - now open her up and let us
know how it feels - SOTP.

Hawkeye.
 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 22 February, 2001 01:38 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Hawkeye:
sounds cool - now open her up and let us
know how it feels - SOTP.

Hawkeye.


Hey, Hawkeye! Well, I can tell you, she is much stronger, especially in the mid-range. The car just pulls so much harder now right to redline and doesn't seem to flatten out. The car even got a little squirrelly on me when shifting between 2nd and 3rd at WOT which is a first, so there is a definite power increase. I can't wait to get to the drag strip! Of course, it has to stop SNOWING for me to do that!!! We're in the midst of another dang snowstorm even as I type. Will it ever end!?

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Posted by Happy_Dan (Member # 118) on 22 February, 2001 02:41 PM:
 
Thanks for the detailed information Steve. It is very clear. I really can't wait to see her go at Englishtown. Now be a good friend and keep that white stuff down there where it will melt faster!! Happy driving!
 
Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on 22 February, 2001 05:56 PM:
 
Sounds great, I am very happy that it worked out (you worked it out!) and envious of your new performance! Congrats!

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2000 SS Convertible, M6, Onyx
Ebony leather, Hurst, Monsoon, 12 CD
SLP: SS Grille, SLP Lid & K&N, Syntech, Mats, Phobs, Plaque, Cover
96 Impala SS Black
SSOA, NYFE, F-Body, NAISSO
 


Posted by XTrooper (Member # 520) on 22 February, 2001 07:50 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by DaddySS:
Sounds great, I am very happy that it worked out (you worked it out!) and envious of your new performance! Congrats!


Thanks, DaddySS!

Dan,

We are getting buried here! There's at least six inches on the ground as I type and it's supposed to keep snowing till midnight. Aaarrrgggghhhh!
Thank God I got to run the SS a bit after I got the cam installed. If not, I'd be dying here now!

Steve


 


Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on 23 February, 2001 07:35 AM:
 
thanks for the reply Steve - you got guts for going for the cam!

but....no snow here
 




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