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Posted by 99 HOSS (Member # 109) on :

..., yes our cars have them, but they are not for this purpose. They are intended for data collection by the insurance industry.

Here's THE STORY that makes for a dangerous presidence for all of us.

Posted by MM (Member # 1247) on :

Im kind of suprised.... at one point GM and others said that the data would only be used by MFR's but I guess anyone now can buy a tool to pull the info. It makes sense from a MFR stand point if there is a case where someone says a bag did not deploy or some accident where they try and sue the MFR when its really the driver at fault. Anytime you get sleazy lawyers (which is all of them) involved nothing good can come of it.... Guess this should serve as a warning for street races and such....

[ 15. August 2003, 08:34 AM: Message edited by: MM ]

Posted by poSSum (Member # 119) on :

I'd like to present the counterpoint:

We drive high power performance cars. If we were involved in a serious collision with say, a Volvo, the safe, conservative car, we would automatically be considered the villians.

I believe if we truly adopt the "F-bodies arrive alive" mantra, the technology will serve to vindicate, not convict, us.

Posted by Doug Harden (Member # 1796) on :

quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:
I'd like to present the counterpoint:

We drive high power performance cars. If we were involved in a serious collision with say, a Volvo, the safe, conservative car, we would automatically be considered the villians.

I believe if we truly adopt the "F-bodies arrive alive" mantra, the technology will serve to vindicate, not convict, us.

Werd.....

Posted by CamaroSCG (Member # 1591) on :

quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:
We drive high power performance cars. If we were involved in a serious collision with say, a Volvo, the safe, conservative car, we would automatically be considered the villians.

I believe if we truly adopt the "F-bodies arrive alive" mantra, the technology will serve to vindicate, not convict, us.

I drive both! 2002 SS and a 1983 Volvo wagon. [Smile]

You made a good point. At Skyline, a 79 year old lady pulled out in front of a 21 year old male driving a red SS, which was totaled!
I would guess that at least 75% of the people riding by the 2 wrecked cars, and seeing the 2 involved drivers, would probably think "That kid in the Camaro was probably going too fast". When it fact, she was at fault and he couldn't get away from her in time!

Thumbs up for "F-bodies arrive alive"

Posted by poSSum (Member # 119) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Doug Harden:
Werd.....

Cat got your tongue, Doug? [Big Grin]

dictionary.com doesn't have a definition for your Indiana dialect and I haven't the foggiest idea what you're saying [Confused]

Posted by 99 HOSS (Member # 109) on :

in a slang dialect, he's agreeing with you.

Posted by 99PewterSS (Member # 564) on :

quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:

I believe if we truly adopt the "F-bodies arrive alive" mantra, the technology will serve to vindicate, not convict, us.

I agree 100%! While I think the validity of the black box "evidence" will be challenged for a long time in the courts, and while I am not advocating that big brother should be keeping an eye on everything we do, I think the black box data has a place.

In the posted story, the article says the driver of the truck may have been doing 70 MPH in a 40 zone. I'm sorry, that's just plain wreckless driving and if the black box backs it up, so be it. They guy should be convicted.

There are plenty of people in this world driving like lunatics on the road and if the black box scares them into being a little more careful ... go for it.

Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :

If it tells the truth - it's a good thing.

It can convict or exonerate - just drive safely!

Posted by DanPazich (Member # 1352) on :

I have no problem with these devices. If you follow the driving laws, then you have nothing to worry about. It's those that drive unsafely IMO that dont like these devices (and perhaps those who like their 'privacy' but lets not go there). Bottom line, If it will bring out the FACTS, use it! Too many people lie these days. It's a deceitful world we live in.

Um..yeah...that's my 2 cents. [Smile]

Werd to ya motha [Razz]

Posted by T TOPSS (Member # 1674) on :

"The truth shall set you free!" If you're innocent!!!!

Posted by JimW (Member # 1209) on :

It was a matter of time before they used the "boxes" for crash data to prove who was at fault.

Whats to say the data collected by the box is correct. [Big Grin]

[ 20. August 2003, 10:39 PM: Message edited by: JimW ]

Posted by Rhino (Member # 920) on :

It's weird that my car stores so much data but at least we're aware that it does it. Think of the poor sap that is innocent and get's the hammer thrown at him, when all along he's had the data to vindicate himself

Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :

That "Black Box"ust happend to be my new assignment since going back to work for Ford.I specialize in eletronic body modules. This is just another module to me.It is called a "Restraint Control Module" and stores crash data.I believe the biggest reason is to protect the vehicle manufacture from lawsuites where someone may have gotten in an accident and depending on the severitity of the impact,the air bag may or not deploy.All of this data is probably Government mandated.

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