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Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
I have received a couple of requests for a GP and would like to see what we can do.

Now, first off.... I need to say that , there isn't much margin in putting together these systems. In fact, I'll likely have to raise the pricing soon. The only reason I share this with you is that I'm going to have a hard time giving much of a discount for the GP.

However, I DO want to get more of the systems out there and hence more word of mouth.

Here's what I'm thinking:

5 Systems = 10% off
10 Systems = 20% off


In doing this, I'd have to work the quantities into the production schedule, so there may be a waiting period.

Once we have the order commitments, I'd need at least 50% deposit (100% is fine too ..) before I commit to the production.

How does this sound?

If you have interest, you can reply here, but please send me an email also.

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

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Posted by poSSum (Member # 119) on :
 
Sounds like I should have waited [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
I'm in!!! [Big Grin] I'll have to check to see what the number is for the setup I want.

I have a 2002 and want the ones with the RT hi-flo cats. I still want to be able to keep it "mostly" street legal.

Thanks!!!
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:
Sounds like I should have waited [Big Grin]

Well... you did wait....and patiently too!

Thanks a bunch !!!

By the way, you have email.

Gordon

[ 11. September 2003, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
I'm in!

You have email.
 
Posted by John01SS (Member # 511) on :
 
Let me double check the finances and OK it with the woman, but I definitely want in on this. I'll know for sure by the end of the weekend.

- John
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
OK, Guys....

At this point we have 5 "OKs", or close to "OK".

I'll send emails to those of you who have said, yes. At which point Y'all can send the deposits (or full)... if we can get 10.... the pricing will be adjusted accordingly.

Thanks for the support! [Wink] [Smile]

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

[ 13. September 2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]
 
Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on :
 
Gordon: The headers and Y pipes look great! I am happy with my system now but if and when I'm in the market for replacement I know where I'll be looking! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now.... [Wink]
 
Posted by KurtK (Member # 1779) on :
 
Looks nice- I need to have CARB [Roll Eyes] . How soon?
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Kurt,

It's impossible for a long tube system to get a CARB certificate due to moving the cats further away from the heads (the original position).

[Frown] [Frown]

Gordon
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
How do you want the deposit payment when the deposit is needed??

Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

[ 13. September 2003, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Kevin V 2002 SS ]
 
Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now.... [Wink]

Now that's just plain mean.... [Smile]
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
The deposits can be through PayPal or by check.

The prototyping was done with the SLP bolt-on SFCs, so no problem there.

Gordon
 
Posted by 67&02 (Member # 1570) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

Nope!
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Posted by sscamaro (Member # 1330) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now.... [Wink]

Now what kind of person calls another persons car parts JUNK. That does not speak very well of you. How would you like someone calling your headers JUNK?
 
Posted by DGOETZ (Member # 1846) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
The deposits can be through PayPal or by check.

The prototyping was done with the SLP bolt-on SFCs, so no problem there.

Gordon

Well if that's the case you know DGoetz Fabrications SFC's will work beautifully
 
Posted by DGOETZ (Member # 1846) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 67&02:
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

Nope!
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Might you have a shot of the driver side from a similiar angle?
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by 67&02:
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

Nope!
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what is the ground clearance with the cats?
 
Posted by 67&02 (Member # 1570) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DGOETZ:
Might you have a shot of the driver side from a similiar angle?

I don't, sorry. I was in a rush to drive it after the install!

[ 14. September 2003, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: 67&02 ]
 
Posted by Travisnd1 (Member # 1982) on :
 
How much are they?
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
I'll post answers & some photos in a little bit.

Just finished the torque arm install... gotta take a shower... [Wink]

Gordon
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Ok, guys... some answers...

First... I hope nobody (including Daddy) was offended by my joking around... that's just me... [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

The clearance from the underside of the driver's floor at the longitudinal crossmember (the one that runs under the driver's seat to the trans crossmember mounting area) to the lowest part of the underside of the 3" pipe.. is 4". That's with a 3/4 " clearance from the floor to the pipe.

With a cat... add 1/2" to that measurement.

See the website for details on the parts and pricing, but... the retail prices are:

With Cats: $1549.95
With ORPs: $1249.95

If we have 5 purchases take off 10%
If we have 10 purchases take off 20%


Photos (these shots are on the test car and are of a pre-production y-pipe that has not been coated):

Side shot of driver side y-pipe from side of car.
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Under car shot of complete system.
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Driver side with SLP SFC
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Passenger side with SLP SFC
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Y-pipe collector and Flowmaster reducer
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[ 15. September 2003, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]
 
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :
 
My order is in! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
Let us know when to send in the deposit. I'll be in Bowling Green at the F-Body Gathering from Wendsday thru Sunday.

How many participants do you have so far and when will be the cutoff date???
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Thanks for the phone call, Hawkeye!

Kevin (and all)....
Looks like we have at least 5 confirmed, so at this point we're looking at 10% off.

Deposits can be done at any time, by PayPal or by sending a check. My payPal ID is the email address.

info@provenperformanceconcepts.com

I'll make up invoices for each customer as the payments are made.

If we get to 10 systems (I'll wait a bit yet), the pricing will be adjusted accordingly.

Thanks again!

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
Gordon, I sent you a deposit via PayPal.
 
Posted by John01SS (Member # 511) on :
 
Has anybody "advertised" this on any other boards??? Let's see if we can't get this to 20% off!!

- john
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
I sent a deposit by paypal. [Cool]
 
Posted by John01SS (Member # 511) on :
 
I'll be sending mine in tomorrow. I called Gordon tonight and he was gracious enough to pull off the road and answer all of my questions for over half an hour. I have no doubts about getting these now. At the very least, I know Gordon will do everything he can to make sure we're all happy with his stuff.

- John
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Awwww shucks...... [Embarrassed]

Thanks, John

We have 4 confirmed deposits counting John's

Feel free to talk to your buddies on other boards or whatever... I'd just as well see 10 sets for the GP ... as you guys would , the 20% discount!

Continued thanks!

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com
 
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :
 
You should be hearing from Rock today. I spoke
to him yesterday and I think he's a go! [Big Grin]
 
Posted by DanA_F99_1977 (Member # 118) on :
 
Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

[ 16. September 2003, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: DanA_F99_1977 ]
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977:
Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

Very good Dan..... do you take PayPal ... [Big Grin] [Wink]

Gordon
 
Posted by Jim Mac (Member # 113) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977:
Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

Suckup!
 
Posted by BadRag (Member # 1566) on :
 
Do you have them for the LT1? and will they take the sims....this is the only way i know of to get around the Ca. c.a.r.b. issue....

Thanks, BadRag
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
^
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
Gordon, what is the status on the GP orders, any idea yet???
 
Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :
 
Rock sent his paypal yesterday - so we should
be good to go soon! [Smile]
 
Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :
 
Is this GP still active?
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Midlife.... If you are interested in getting in please email me.

GP is all set, guys. Just waiting on delivery of the orders. I'll have more info later today.

Thanks, all !

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com
 
Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :
 
Gordon,

You have mail!
 
Posted by mhayman (Member # 146) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by BadRag:
Do you have them for the LT1? and will they take the sims....this is the only way i know of to get around the Ca. c.a.r.b. issue....

Thanks, BadRag

Looks like the LT1 LT's are due out next month.

Did you happen to dream this too Badrag? You're a psychic. [Wink]

I wish I had the cash right now. Think they would fit on my vert with KBDD sub frames?
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
...I LOVE THAT PENGUIN AVATAR !!!!

[Big Grin] [Cool] [Big Grin]

The LT1 units will be built to fit with the SLP SFCs, since they are the most popular. I have a couple LS1 systems (which were built to fit with the SLP SFCs) out to owners with the KBDD SFCs & have heard of no issues.

Gordon
 
Posted by Mario Cockrell (Member # 1679) on :
 
Gordon, man I'm going to miss this one. Damn.
 
Posted by John01SS (Member # 511) on :
 
Gordon,

I've got a buddy who might be interested in your headers...is it too late to get in on the group purchase? How many people do we have right now?

- John
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
John, you have email.

Midlife CrisiSS, you have email too.


Thanks guys!

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
Any update on status of the orders????
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
ttt [Big Grin]
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Guys,

Sorry for the delay... been having internet issues.

Y-pipes are shipping this week to the coater's

They will ship by truck. The coater will have them for a week to week and a half.

I will ship as many as I can out of the header stock I have now. Whatever is overflow from that will ship from the next header shipment (due soon), as I had originally noted for the GP.

Gordon
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
ttt [Big Grin]


 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Thanks Kevin...

Delivery of the GP systems (we ended up with 6) should begin in about 2 weeks. Some of the later entries may have another 2 week wait after that ( for the next header delivery).

As soon as I have the full production nailed down I'll email everybody.

Thanks guys!

Gordon
PPC
 
Posted by KevinA (Member # 139) on :
 
Thanks for the update, at least I know I can't install them over Thanksgiving. (wife will be happy)
 
Posted by Kevin V 2002 SS (Member # 1025) on :
 
Any further updates yet???? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by M3EATER (Member # 1731) on :
 
Headers & y-pipes are at the coater's ..... won't be too long now.

Hopefully, 2 weeks or less.

Gordon
 


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