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Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :

SLP is now selling the paper elements for fifty bucks! Has anyone found an alternate source? I checked out the Donaldson website but they don't offer it direct.

Brad

Posted by Hawk196 (Member # 2175) on :

Not to bash SLP, but is there anything they sell that IS under $50 [Confused]

Tom (who's glad he spent $50 on a LIFETIME K&N filter)

Posted by Mike Bonte (Member # 1892) on :

I just looked it up... you forgot $10 for shipping... ($60 for 1 air filter)

Damn that's gay, I'm glad I bought them when they were selling 3 for like $70.

I also noticed they raised the price of the airlid boot connector... that part seems to be a known weak link in the OEM airlid.

They sure do know how to treat their customers, don't they. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Bonte:
I just looked it up... you forgot $10 for shipping... ($60 for 1 air filter)

Damn that's gay, I'm glad I bought them when they were selling 3 for like $70.

I also noticed they raised the price of the airlid boot connector... that part seems to be a known weak link in the OEM airlid.

They sure do know how to treat their customers, don't they.

Since I'm not there anymore, I don't know the answers. However, my guess is that they are now buying smaller quantities from their suppliers and the result is higher cost to them which they have to pass on to their customers. That's a fact of life and business. No more f-cars being made, less demand for parts, higher operating costs.

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

well, they lowered the price of the OE lid considerably to $112. I paid over $200 for it when I bought it from Michigan.

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=10895

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Hawk196:
Tom (who's glad he spent $50 on a LIFETIME K&N filter)

Ive heard enough things to be glad I switched to the paper Donaldson.

Next time you have your lid off, check the wires on your MAF. I bet they will have a nice layer of oil with dirt stuck to it.

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

if anyone calls them, I would make sure its a paper filter, and not an oiled one. I know SLP PP was talking to Donaldson about doing an oiled Blackwing filter for Fcars.

In the meantime, I'm glad I got my replacement Donaldsons already @ 3/$70

Posted by 10thhawk103 (Member # 2033) on :

Haven't called, but its the same part number as I have written down for the paper replacement. [Frown]

Posted by Jim Mac (Member # 113) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
well, they lowered the price of the OE lid considerably to $112. I paid over $200 for it when I bought it from Michigan.

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=10895

I notice that this is listed for 2000-2002: did they make one for the 98-99's?

Posted by MOO4340 (Member # 471) on :

You guys, your paper filters, your k&n filters, how about trying Amsoils Two Stage Filter..works better than anything else, flows better and will make a couple of real horsepower...
KICKBACK
2000SS COUPE, M6, Chrome Ten Spokes..All Amsoil Synthetics...lots of other goodies....

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
SLP is now selling the paper elements for fifty bucks! Has anyone found an alternate source? I checked out the Donaldson website but they don't offer it direct.

Brad

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Jim Mac:
I notice that this is listed for 2000-2002: did they make one for the 98-99's?

you'd need a plug for the side of the lid for the air pump hose you dont have.... which I believe is a standard size plug.

Yachnin, you remember the size of that opening on the side of the lid?

Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :

Does anyone know of any alternate sources for the filter?

Any quantifable data on the Amsoil filter?

Other reasonably well flowing paper elements?

[Confused]

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

pretty sure donaldson did the filters exclusively for slp.

its not impossible they posted the wrong price either... that is pretty steep. ask them, and tell them it was alot less from Michigan.

Posted by 01ss87iroc (Member # 1763) on :

Wow. Glad I got the 3/$70 deal too. Now, $112 for the OE lid, hmmm...

Posted by Mike Bonte (Member # 1892) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JeffY:
Since I'm not there anymore, I don't know the answers. However, my guess is that they are now buying smaller quantities from their suppliers and the result is higher cost to them which they have to pass on to their customers. That's a fact of life and business. No more f-cars being made, less demand for parts, higher operating costs.

Jeff, I understand what you saying... and while the price increase in the boot connector may be reasonable, you have to admit that the increase in the filter price isn't.

Maybe they made a mistake when logging it in...sure hope so cause they will have a lot of filters sitting around collecting dust at that price. [Confused]

[ 25. November 2003, 08:19 AM: Message edited by: Mike Bonte ]

Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
pretty sure donaldson did the filters exclusively for slp.

its not impossible they posted the wrong price either... that is pretty steep. ask them, and tell them it was alot less from Michigan.

Good idea. I also bought the 3-pak last year for $70 so I have some time...

The CAI sure seems to get them dirty quickly!

I wonder how much HP gain the Donaldson has over the OEM filter. Anyone?

Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :

quote:
Originally posted by 01ss87iroc:
Wow. Glad I got the 3/$70 deal too. Now, $112 for the OE lid, hmmm...

Are you sure that is the OE lid (Blackhawk)?

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 01ss87iroc:
[qb]Are you sure that is the OE lid (Blackhawk)?

blackwing

... yup, sure looks it to me
http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=10895

Posted by T TOPSS (Member # 1674) on :

OOOOH I got ripped then.....I think I paid like 250 or 275?

Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
well, they lowered the price of the OE lid considerably to $112. I paid over $200 for it when I bought it from Michigan.

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=10895

That price is almost as cheap as most aftermarket lids.Maybe I could get one of these for Christmas! [Cool]

Posted by Hawk196 (Member # 2175) on :

quote:
Originally posted by T TOPSS:
OOOOH I got ripped then.....I think I paid like 250 or 275?

Thats a bunch of BS [Mad]

. I have a '99 and bought the Whisperlid almost immediately $122....$120.....but you got banged for $250+

Tom

Posted by Mike Bonte (Member # 1892) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Hawk196:

quote:
Originally posted by T TOPSS:
OOOOH I got ripped then.....I think I paid like 250 or 275?
Thats a bunch of BS . I have a '99 and bought the Whisperlid almost immediately $122....$120.....but you got banged for $250+

Tom

Yeah any of us who ordered the lid OEM (like me) paid the higher price.

[Frown]

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
I wonder how much HP gain the Donaldson has over the OEM filter. Anyone?

GM let them claim +10hp for the combo of the lid+filter, and that was conservative.

word was the filter is the real gem. when it was designed, it HAD to flow better than a K&N, otherwise SLP would have nixed it.

Never have seen a comparision between filters. I'd be interested in seeing the results myself.

[ 25. November 2003, 02:13 PM: Message edited by: chrisL ]

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

As I suspected, the price for the filters is INCORRECT!

Give them until next week to get it straightened out.

Posted by HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
As I suspected, the price for the filters is INCORRECT!

Give them until next week to get it straightened out.

O.k....so who did you call? [Razz]

Posted by Mike Bonte (Member # 1892) on :

Damn now I need something else to yell about. [Razz]

Posted by Jim Mac (Member # 113) on :

quote:
Originally posted by HTWLSS:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
As I suspected, the price for the filters is INCORRECT!

Give them until next week to get it straightened out.
O.k....so who did you call?

Hmmmmm....I can't imagine who he would contact to find that out....

Posted by Midlife CrisiSS (Member # 2141) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Bonte:

quote:
Originally posted by Hawk196:

quote:
Originally posted by T TOPSS:
OOOOH I got ripped then.....I think I paid like 250 or 275?
Thats a bunch of BS . I have a '99 and bought the Whisperlid almost immediately $122....$120.....but you got banged for $250+

Tom
Yeah any of us who ordered the lid OEM (like me) paid the higher price

Me too. I paid $279 + shipping for the OEM lid and filter (item # 11030)in Sept 2001. [Eek!]

re: http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=11030

[ 26. November 2003, 07:43 AM: Message edited by: Midlife CrisiSS ]

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

Interesting, two different part numbers.... I bet the $112 part is just the lid and not the plumbing for the airpump hose. Also wonder if part #11030 includes a filter.

Posted by Rhode Island Red (Member # 220) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
pretty sure donaldson did the filters exclusively for slp.

its not impossible they posted the wrong price either... that is pretty steep. ask them, and tell them it was alot less from Michigan.
Good idea. I also bought the 3-pak last year for $70 so I have some time...

The CAI sure seems to get them dirty quickly!

I wonder how much HP gain the Donaldson has over the OEM filter. Anyone?

I did a dyno test with the GM OEM airlid and filter vs the SLP OEM Blackwing Airlid way back in December if 2001 as the first 130 or so 2002 Firehawks did not come with the lid installed from SLP so I had to order the OEM lid and install it.

Safe to say after dynoin wht the GM lid/air filter giving me 300 hp and 318 Ft-Lbs of torque... while the car was strapped to the dyno, I put on the SLP OEM Blackwing with Balckiwng paper filter that goes with the lid... I pulled 307 hp and 325 Ft-Lbs of torque... This was done on back to back runs, on ont same day in the same environmental conditions...

Safe to say, I think this is the most objective, impatial test between GM vs SLP air intake System.. Note that I did not test the airflow of the actual filters themselves on the same airlid ... with all my long worded jargon said ... I made 8hp/7Ft-Lbs of torque gain on the SLP Lid/airfilter vs GM's Lid/airfilter.

chris.. let us know what the correct price is.. I didn't get in on the cheap fiter deal Doh!!!

Posted by JFsport01 (Member # 1374) on :

quote:
Originally posted by chrisL:
Interesting, two different part numbers.... I bet the $112 part is just the lid and not the plumbing for the airpump hose. Also wonder if part #11030 includes a filter.

FWIW, they do show the airpump hose in the picture as well as the other connector and clamps. Also, they do refer to it as an assembly and I would think that implies the hoses and connectors are included, probably not the filter.

Posted by MidnightSS (Member # 2000) on :

Yeah, I was looking at the $300 one the other day and was shocked when I saw ChrisL's post of the $112.

Note one says Airbox Cover Assy, the other Airbox Assy (and it's $6 more for shipping!).

Be nice if they threw in some text.

Posted by MOO4340 (Member # 471) on :

Check out Amsoils Website on their related products and filters...With the 0-30W Racing Oil, Trans Fluid, Rear End Fluid and of course the two stage air filter, would you believe twelve additional HP and ten pounds of torque.

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
Does anyone know of any alternate sources for the filter?

Any quantifable data on the Amsoil filter?

Other reasonably well flowing paper elements?

Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :

quote:
Originally posted by MOO4340:
Check out Amsoils Website on their related products and filters...With the 0-30W Racing Oil, Trans Fluid, Rear End Fluid and of course the two stage air filter, would you believe twelve additional HP and ten pounds of torque.

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
Does anyone know of any alternate sources for the filter?

Any quantifable data on the Amsoil filter?

Other reasonably well flowing paper elements?

Hmm-if its so good, why doesn't anyone offer it as OE?

Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :

quote:
Originally posted by JeffY:

quote:
Originally posted by MOO4340:
Check out Amsoils Website on their related products and filters...With the 0-30W Racing Oil, Trans Fluid, Rear End Fluid and of course the two stage air filter, would you believe twelve additional HP and ten pounds of torque.

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
Does anyone know of any alternate sources for the filter?

Any quantifable data on the Amsoil filter?

Other reasonably well flowing paper elements?

Hmm-if its so good, why doesn't anyone offer it as OE?

May be because of costs. Auto manufactures have
been known to cut costs in lieu of performance.

Posted by MOO4340 (Member # 471) on :

Price is more than say KN, but the life of it is
like forever....
kickback

quote:
Originally posted by Midlife CrisiSS:
Does anyone know of any alternate sources for the filter?

Any quantifable data on the Amsoil filter?

Other reasonably well flowing paper elements?

[/qb][/QUOTE]Hmm-if its so good, why doesn't anyone offer it as OE? [/qb][/QUOTE]May be because of costs. Auto manufactures have
been known to cut costs in lieu of performance. [/QB][/QUOTE]

Posted by ss_rs_z (Member # 1888) on :

Okay so where may we find Donaldson or Amsoil filters? I would love to have a few around for my SS. [Cool]

Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :

they've corrected the price on the donaldson filter - $29.95

http://www.slponline.com/view_product.asp?PARTNUMBER=10894

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