I would like to know if anyone has done this to their 30th Annv. car. Either the whole car or a stripe or 2. I'm considering restriping most of my car as my front clip and hood have a lot of chips. The graphix shop I went to here in my city warned me that they could be clear coated on, or leave a heavy glue residue after removing the old ones. Or worst case scenario, they peel off paint . Anyone ever delt with this yet?
[ 24. May 2004, 04:24 PM: Message edited by: 30thSSNerd ]
Posted by Teri9672 (Member # 1541) on :
You would be able to tell if the decals had been clear coated over. I can guarantee that your paint has faded and where the stripes are will be nice and bright white. If you want to remove the stripes, take a heat gun or hair dryer and heat the vinyl before you remove it. Work in a small area and keep heating the vinyl up and peeling it off. You will need to use some type of adhesive remover to get all the adhesive off. Hope this helps Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :
All of the 30th Anniversary Z28's and SS' had vynyl stripes that should come right off with a heat gun. They were not clear coated over from the factory. Once removed there won't be too much of the stripe adhesive.Any that is still on the paint will come off with a bug and tar remover.
Posted by agmSS (Member # 853) on :
I had to have the stripes redone on mine twice because they were bubbling and had cracked and split around the pseudo-scoops on the hood. The area around those fake scoops is very difficult to get a clean tight fit with those stripes and not have any splits or creases. On the second try, my dealer painted that area the same Hugger Orange and then laid the stripes down and trimmed around the scoop areas. It came out looking much tidier than the way the car looked as delivered from the factory. They did such a good job that it was very difficult to spot the difference even with your face right on it. Makes me wonder why they didn't do it that way in the first place. I can't imagine that I'm the only 30th owner out there that had creases around the scoops.
I agree with Teri and 2002Z4CSS, they were not clear coated on. I picked up a few stone chips too and it's not long after that they can start to split. Out of all the Camaro's I've owned, my 30th is still the one I regret parting with the most. Someday.....
Best of luck. Andy
Posted by agmSS (Member # 853) on :
Oops....
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Posted by Travisnd1 (Member # 1982) on :
would you replace the 35th SS LE stripes the same way?
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
Well thats good to hear they won't be too much trouble to take off. I was concerned they would be a pain in the @$$. I'm calling SLP tomorrow on a kit they have and gonna make sure its a complete kit. What do yuz think of a custom orange set with metalic flake inset into the stripes? ??
Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :
quote:Originally posted by Travisnd1: would you replace the 35th SS LE stripes the same way?
Any vynyl stripe could be removed the same way. Remember old station wagons that had the simulated woodgrain on the sides? I used to replaced those while working at the dealer. They come off the same as the stripes do...just a lot ot more material to remove. Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
You could take off the 35th stripes the same as the 30th stripes, but it'll be tough to replicate the variation of the checkered silver stripes with paint.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
quote:Originally posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS: You could take off the 35th stripes the same as the 30th stripes, but it'll be tough to replicate the variation of the checkered silver stripes with paint.
I plan to one day down the road have the entire car repainted and the stripes painted and clearcoated. Right now the car is in great shape but not a gem mint one. I can restripe the car and it will look 100% better. I'm ordering this stipe kit from SLP
Its a coupe set, but I don't really need the roof stripes anyways. Thats the only part of the stripes that are mint! The price of this kit is way better then buying individual sections, if you cruise around there a bit and see. Hopefully they don't discontinue the item as they did with the White SS rims I was trying to buy. I had my order in and then they called me back a week later and said they are gone forever . I'll be crushed if these stripes are not available Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :
quote:Originally posted by 2002Z4CSS:
quote:Originally posted by Travisnd1: would you replace the 35th SS LE stripes the same way?
Any vynyl stripe could be removed the same way. Remember old station wagons that had the simulated woodgrain on the sides? I used to replaced those while working at the dealer. They come off the same as the stripes do...just a lot ot more material to remove.
The "Woody"!
Mark took his 35thLE stripes off. No problems at all. Warm up, then a little alcohol or thinners and the surface glue will wipe right off.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
So SLP has told me they are not reordering the stripe kit anymore in spite of 4 people who wanted them. This is the 3rd time SLP has dropped the ball on things I have wanted for my car. . Why would one need these these stripes when a car is brand new. But as the car ages a bit, like 7 years old now, and people want to replace and repair stuff with original equipment, they discontinue the parts. Where is the logic here? . I know Brent Franker is a good guy to deal with and has the graphix to remake the stripes but its the vinyl I am looking to find that matches. SLP will not release the manufacturer of the vinyl. Anyone out there know of any other place or who the manufacturer is and what the vinyl product number is? Thanks
Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :
quote:Originally posted by agmSS:
Oops....
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Your stripes were put on by GM, not SLP. The GM stripes were much cheaper material than that used by SLP.
Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :
quote:Originally posted by 30thSSNerd: So SLP has told me they are not reordering the stripe kit anymore in spite of 4 people who wanted them. This is the 3rd time SLP has dropped the ball on things I have wanted for my car. . Why would one need these these stripes when a car is brand new. But as the car ages a bit, like 7 years old now, and people want to replace and repair stuff with original equipment, they discontinue the parts. Where is the logic here? . I know Brent Franker is a good guy to deal with and has the graphix to remake the stripes but its the vinyl I am looking to find that matches. SLP will not release the manufacturer of the vinyl. Anyone out there know of any other place or who the manufacturer is and what the vinyl product number is? Thanks
There's real good logic here. SLP probably made a one-time buy for the small production run that the 30th required. That's normal. No source will provide a small batch of parts without charging LOTSof money for it. If SLP were to get more stripes made up, the price probably would be unreachable. And its not only SLP - I'd bet GM has stopping making some of the replacement parts for the F-cars already as well. There are some parts you won't be able to buy real soon, I'd be willing to bet.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffY:
quote:Originally posted by agmSS:
Oops....
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Your stripes were put on by GM, not SLP. The GM stripes were much cheaper material than that used by SLP.
My car was indeed restriped by SLP. The Z28 model was converted to an SS with a different hood and tail fin then what GM installed on the car. So they have a different kit for the hood. I already tried GM when I first got the car last year. But thanks for your help anyhow Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffY: There's real good logic here. SLP probably made a one-time buy for the small production run that the 30th required. That's normal. No source will provide a small batch of parts without charging LOTSof money for it. If SLP were to get more stripes made up, the price probably would be unreachable. And its not only SLP - I'd bet GM has stopping making some of the replacement parts for the F-cars already as well. There are some parts you won't be able to buy real soon, I'd be willing to bet.
Not logical to me when its still up on the web site.
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Your stripes were put on by GM, not SLP. The GM stripes were much cheaper material than that used by SLP.
My car was indeed restriped by SLP. The Z28 model was converted to an SS with a different hood and tail fin then what GM installed on the car. So they have a different kit for the hood. I already tried GM when I first got the car last year. But thanks for your help anyhow
Make up your mind. Do you have a Z28 or do you have a SS? The Z28's were done by GM, the 97 SS by SLP. You were talking about fake scoops-that means Z28, as the SS has a functional hood scoop.
Posted by Mike2001SS (Member # 2088) on :
The 25th anniversary cars had the same trouble with the stripes on the hood with bubbles and wrinkles coming in them. My 25th when I got it new within about 2 months had them and mine was fixed under warranty at the dealer but I made them match paint to the stripes and paint them on and then clear coat which they did for free under warranty and everyone that ever saw that car said it was the best they every saw on stripes and when you waxed the car there was no white edges from wax at the edge of the tape on ones
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
Well painting them seems to be the best option. Its gonna cost a lot more I'm sure. Its not so much peeling and bubbles its very fine stone chips and the tail fin has a scratched stripe, looks like from vandals. I'm just not too impressed with SLP now cuz the 3 things I have tried to order have magically discontinued not long after. Just my rotten luck I guess.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffY: Make up your mind. Do you have a Z28 or do you have a SS?
I'm here so its a real SS. GM sent it to SLP as a Z28 and SLP converted the car to an SS Posted by HailUofM (Member # 1430) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffY:
quote:Originally posted by 30thSSNerd:
quote:Originally posted by JeffY:
quote:Originally posted by agmSS:
Oops....
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Your stripes were put on by GM, not SLP. The GM stripes were much cheaper material than that used by SLP.
My car was indeed restriped by SLP. The Z28 model was converted to an SS with a different hood and tail fin then what GM installed on the car. So they have a different kit for the hood. I already tried GM when I first got the car last year. But thanks for your help anyhow
Make up your mind. Do you have a Z28 or do you have a SS? The Z28's were done by GM, the 97 SS by SLP. You were talking about fake scoops-that means Z28, as the SS has a functional hood scoop.
agmSS said he had the 30th Z28, not 30thSSNerd.
Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :
quote:Originally posted by HailUofM:
quote:Originally posted by JeffY:
quote:Originally posted by 30thSSNerd:
quote:Originally posted by JeffY:
quote:Originally posted by agmSS:
Oops....
Mine was a 30th Z28. The stripe kit looks easier on the 30th SS. I didn't pay attention to the pic in your post.
Your stripes were put on by GM, not SLP. The GM stripes were much cheaper material than that used by SLP.
My car was indeed restriped by SLP. The Z28 model was converted to an SS with a different hood and tail fin then what GM installed on the car. So they have a different kit for the hood. I already tried GM when I first got the car last year. But thanks for your help anyhow
Make up your mind. Do you have a Z28 or do you have a SS? The Z28's were done by GM, the 97 SS by SLP. You were talking about fake scoops-that means Z28, as the SS has a functional hood scoop.
agmSS said he had the 30th Z28, not 30thSSNerd.
oops-sorry about that- you're right. My apologies-Guess I just paged too quick.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
Ok here is an update. I ordered a set of SS decals from Phoenix Graphix. Fair price and quick shipping here. Last weekend (seeing as it was raining again ) I started the venture in removing the stripes. Not a fun job by any means. I used a heat gun to heat the vinyl but I was kinda scared to put a lot of heat into the body as 95% of the car is plastic. The vinyl came off in a couple hours but it was the adhesive underneath it that took forever. It has a sticky rubbery texture and it was a btch to remove . Forget Goo-Gone. That stuff just rolls off. No worky at all. Even laquer thinner did not have much effect. Sunday a fellow from our club came over with Du-pont Wipe in Wash witch penetrated the adhesive much better and we were able to slowly get the gunk off with a plastic scraper. It took me 4 more days working 3 hours a day to remove the adhesive. . The toughest part was the passenger side on the hood. The ahesive was baked on and nothing was working. After trying a test spot under my car I used a paint brush cleaner called Poly Clens. It was the only thing that would work into the goo and loosen it up enough to scrape. The stuff is strong and melts bare plastic so I used it in sections, wiping with the Du-Pont stuff to neutralize the effects of it. I'm happy to report the car is done and ready for new stripes next week. Unfortunately Phoenix dropped the ball on my kit and sent me a kit for a Z28 and not the SS At least they are sending the right kit out now and hopefully get my car into the 1st Canadian Super Chevy Show next week. Pics are in my Webshots album.
[ 08. May 2004, 10:22 AM: Message edited by: 30thSSNerd ]
Posted by Hookerf14 (Member # 1602) on :
Thanks for this info. My 30th is also in need of a couple new stripes. ...dang rock chips.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
UPDATE
The 2nd half of the stripe kit arrived yesterday, UPS. This is to contain the t-roof sections and rear of the car. Its wrong again. . I still have stripes that are not the same width as the ones I took off and Phoenix tells me they are the same. The ones they sent me are wider by one inch then the ones I removed. To top it off my friend who does business with Zekes in Montreal, an SLP outlet now says they can get the stripe kit from SLP! SLP told me no way last month. I'm certainly getting a huge run around here and desperately need help from those out there who own this car. I have posted another thread about measuring the stripes width wise and really need some help here. I got 2 days to Super Chevy and it looks like I'm gonna have to pull a rabit out of the hat to make my car look good for the show. I can't believe the hassles I'm running into on this. Posted by Hookerf14 (Member # 1602) on :
Same thing happened to me after CAD in New Jersey. I ordered the stripe kit for the hood and front fascia. I got the rear spioler and trunk lid. Just another day in the screwed up world of replacement parts ordering. Then i called to SLP and they told me the kit was no longer available.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
I'm so flamming mad I decided to express them on the car this weekend.
Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
Ok so seeing as I finally sorted things out with Phoenix Graphix, and seeing as the long weekend is a complete washout up here, I decided to apply the rear stripes to the car. Then seeing as they went on so well, I decided to do the hood myself too .Yesterday me and a friend struggled for nearly 2 hours to put the driver side on. I thought it was not going to work and nearly gave up. But we persisted and got it on around 8:30pm. Today I put the passenger side on in 1/2 hour as I knew what to do. Wrapping that decal around the power buldge hood was a real challenge. I added pics to My Webshots Album so you can see the results there. The colour of the stripes are a shade brighter then the original ones. There is a pic of the hood with piece of the old stripe in the center. They came together a bit closer then the original ones did, but still looks good. Gee imagine, something I did not manage to screw up too bad!
Posted by cytruffle (Member # 1733) on :
DAAAAANG!!! You did a GREAT job!!! Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
Don't know why you just didn't paint them. Paint is a permanent solution Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
Thanks Millie! A lot of work it was.
quote:Originally posted by MMMM_ERT: Don't know why you just didn't paint them. Paint is a permanent solution
I don't know how to paint a car myself, otherwise I would do it. I will keep the paint thing in mind for the future though when I have more money. Buying all the goodies I did this year has certainly put a hole in my budget. I do definetely want to paint them eventually. Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :
Glad to hear that you installed the stripes and your sweet looking 30th is not naked anylonger. Posted by RagSS (Member # 1127) on :
...A big sigh of relief, ...WOW, ...great job!!! Ques: what was that 'stain' on the hood near the scoop?, ...did that come off, or was is under the stripe?
...again, ...the results look great!
Kevin
Posted by twobratSS (Member # 2180) on :
That looks AWESOME! Great job! Posted by 30thSSNerd (Member # 2155) on :
quote:Originally posted by RagSS: ...A big sigh of relief, ...WOW, ...great job!!! Ques: what was that 'stain' on the hood near the scoop?, ...did that come off, or was is under the stripe?
...again, ...the results look great!
Kevin
Kevin that was a piece of the original stripe that was removed. I put it there to see the difference in colour. What a job this was but if I ever do it again I should be able to do it in 1/2 the time now Posted by JohnS (Member # 1073) on :
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The price of this kit is way better then buying individual sections, if you cruise around there a bit and see. Hopefully they don't discontinue the item as they did with the White SS rims I was trying to buy. I had my order in and then they called me back a week later and said they are gone forever ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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not long after. Just my rotten luck I guess.
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. Forget Goo-Gone. That stuff just rolls off. No worky at all. Even laquer thinner did not have much effect. Sunday a fellow from our club came over with Du-pont Wipe in Wash witch penetrated the adhesive much better and we were able to slowly get the gunk off with a plastic scraper. It took me 4 more days working 3 hours a day to remove the adhesive. 
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