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Originally posted by xero:
I dont have any Camaroabilia but I may be able to send some pics of Firebirdabilia =o)

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by all means, do!
 

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Posted by Hawkeye (Member # 88) on :
 
Well now, I have your address on a paper on my
desk, but just have not gotten around to putting
thoughts and photos together. I actually thought
that you would be so swamped that mine be lost
in the crowd. I think everyone thinks the same
way. Now, I know I have to do it - so it will
be done!
 

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Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :
 
I posted the info on a few of the bigger boards.

I used the first address you gave to "Attn: Camaro Brand"
 

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Posted by ss_rs_z (Member # 1888) on :
 
Scott I have a tattoo on my arm that reads as follows: Z28
CAMARO
IROC

I will take a picture of it and send it to you.
 

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Posted by JohnS (Member # 1073) on :
 
Gee Scott, I hope you received mine. I mailed out some photos to you a couple of weeks ago.
 

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Posted by cytruffle (Member # 1733) on :
 

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Originally posted by JohnS:
Gee Scott, I hope you received mine. I mailed out some photos to you a couple of weeks ago.

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.....as did I....of the tattoo. I'll send some more pix of the posters and stuff that you've signed.
 

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Posted by Cavy Dan (Member # 1352) on :
 
I am a new guy to the F-body world compared to most of you...but I can stick a few pictures and a nice letter as well...as they say, any little bit helps. And by all means, I WANT to help! I need something to drive to Wall Street in a couple years! Look for something in the next week or so.
 

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Posted by CamaroSCG (Member # 1591) on :
 
I will be finishing my Camaro SS mailbox very soon and I will send some pictures.

edit 4-21-04-The mailbox was finished last night, including 3 coats of Zaino. I'll get the pictures developed and letter out in a few days.

edit 4-27-04 Still waiting for the pictures to come back.

edit 5-4-04 It's on it's way.

[ 04. May 2004, 08:00 AM: Message edited by: CamaroSCG ]
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 
My thoughts on this... (and yes, I still love
Camaros always have...always will.) Before the
F-body was KILLED by G.M. there was a huge petition
to save it. There was outcry in abundance, I know
I signed it as I am sure many of you did too.
Did G.M. listen to us back then? Nope.

I am not trying to discourage anyone from doing
as Scott asks and I appreciate the position Scott
is in, knowing he must have a tough fight for what
he loves. Im just pointing out that the collective cries of the f-body community were
ignored already by a company who would rather
build SUV's, trucks and front wheel drive, 6
cylinder sedans....oh yeah, and Cobalt SSs...


I no longer own 01 Camaro SS #994, that car was
literally falling apart by the day and I owned
it less than 3 years. The problems began early
on and GM did not stand behind it....so needless
to say, many of you know how I feel about GM.

I do still have my 68 Camaro (I'll never part with it)and all my Camaro diecasts, models,
collectibles, posters etc etc etc... those things I will always treasure.

[ 17. April 2004, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: MMMM_ERT ]
 

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Posted by Teri9672 (Member # 1541) on :
 
I'll put something together tomorrow
 

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Posted by TimeLord (Member # 1389) on :
 
You have 100,000's if not 1,000,000's of passionate posts on all these boards supporting the Camaro/Firebird.

You have 1,000,000 of pictures and videos of these cars in every situation possible,at dealers,in shows,on cruises,at the races.

When I first joined the SLP board I couldn't[still can't really] understand the infatuation with production,#s,dates,shipping #s,tracking #s.

A friend of mine Pete[wrong way]Thusen had 3 coinvertible 10ths at one time,his family alone had 7 F-Bodies I think.He followed his cars from the plant,to SLP,to the plant,took pictures of the cars on the train,was at the stations waiting for them,he had them signed by you Ed,Reg,DH.

To me it's a car,a pretty fast one but still a car.I have had nothing but grief everytime I had to deal with GM and it's dealers,the DSM is a total A$$HOLE who totaly had it in for me.If it weren't for the nice lady at customer service/mediation in Ontario and ZEKE'S in Montreal my car would still be vibrating like a YUGO at anything over 70 MPH.

Look on all the boards there are all sorts of hypothesizing threads about what the 5th gen will/should look like and how it should perform.There are so many it is getting ridiculous.

If the stuffed shirts and idiots who call the shots at GM can't get off their collective keisters and logon to the boards and see what is happening in the real outside world they deserve all the **** that will befall them in the coming years.

If they cannot feel the groundswell of support the F-Body has they are braindead and anything we do will not change their narrow minded point of view.

Please go out and hire Colletti to run GM[they had Moss and didn't use him to his full potential],HE at least knows WHY performance cars exist,they exist for the PASSION they instill in people and the LOYALTY they generate.

Tell the LIVING DEAD at the head of GM that when they show signs off intelligent life residing in the penthouse,we will give a damn,until then it's not our job to save their butts,it's time they started EARNING their Millions!!!!!


That's all,,,,I feel much better now!!
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 
Serge!!!


 

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Posted by el ess1 (Member # 1544) on :
 

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Originally posted by TimeLord:

Tell the LIVING DEAD at the head of GM that when they show signs off intelligent life residing in the penthouse,we will give a damn,until then it's not our job to save their butts,it's time they started EARNING their Millions!!!!!

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Aw, c'mon, TL, tell us how you REALLY feel. Don't hold back...
 

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Posted by sscamaro (Member # 1330) on :
 
Scott,I sent you my picture.
 

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Posted by 2002 SLP SS (Member # 1893) on :
 

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Originally posted by TimeLord:
You have 100,000's if not 1,000,000's of passionate posts on all these boards supporting the Camaro/Firebird.

You have 1,000,000 of pictures and videos of these cars in every situation possible,at dealers,in shows,on cruises,at the races.

When I first joined the SLP board I couldn't[still can't really] understand the infatuation with production,#s,dates,shipping #s,tracking #s.

A friend of mine Pete[wrong way]Thusen had 3 coinvertible 10ths at one time,his family alone had 7 F-Bodies I think.He followed his cars from the plant,to SLP,to the plant,took pictures of the cars on the train,was at the stations waiting for them,he had them signed by you Ed,Reg,DH.

To me it's a car,a pretty fast one but still a car.I have had nothing but grief everytime I had to deal with GM and it's dealers,the DSM is a total A$$HOLE who totaly had it in for me.If it weren't for the nice lady at customer service/mediation in Ontario and ZEKE'S in Montreal my car would still be vibrating like a YUGO at anything over 70 MPH.

Look on all the boards there are all sorts of hypothesizing threads about what the 5th gen will/should look like and how it should perform.There are so many it is getting ridiculous.

If the stuffed shirts and idiots who call the shots at GM can't get off their collective keisters and logon to the boards and see what is happening in the real outside world they deserve all the **** that will befall them in the coming years.

If they cannot feel the groundswell of support the F-Body has they are braindead and anything we do will not change their narrow minded point of view.

Please go out and hire Colletti to run GM[they had Moss and didn't use him to his full potential],HE at least knows WHY performance cars exist,they exist for the PASSION they instill in people and the LOYALTY they generate.

Tell the LIVING DEAD at the head of GM that when they show signs off intelligent life residing in the penthouse,we will give a damn,until then it's not our job to save their butts,it's time they started EARNING their Millions!!!!!


That's all,,,,I feel much better now!!

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Posted by Jana (Member # 2029) on :
 
You know.... some of you really amaze me. The F-BodFather is trying to do something for us here, and all he wants is a few stinkin' pictures of you in front of your F-Body, or a letter stating WHY you have it in the first place. The point here is to bring it back into production in an IMPROVED form. If you're going to bash GM, which is most-of-the-time deserved, turn it into something positive...like a letter stating how much you enjoy the car, but how much more you'd enjoy it if these things ::::insert suggestions here:::: were improved.

I love my car,...with all its squeeks, rattles, etc, etc. I don't know what it is, but I love the damned thing, and have been attached to it since 98. In many ways, that car helped change my life for the better.

Anyway..... my point is...if you have beef with GM, but love the F-Body and would like to see it come back someday....how about writing a polite enthusiast letter, and give them some pointers on what you think could be improved on?

When we get the time, I'm sure Rob and I will send a few pics with our cars, and memorabilia.

[ 17. April 2004, 05:59 PM: Message edited by: Jana ]
 

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Posted by TimeLord (Member # 1389) on :
 
We know he will fight to the end,it's the Idiots above him that need this extra show of support that we can't hack!!

From the success of the Mustang to the proliferation of sports car and sports sedan they should know therte is a market segment out there wanting an affordable RWD sport coupe.

The Camaro suffers from the second out syndrome,like Pepsi,you can change the Pepsi formula and no one will complain because it is just Pepsi.But do the same to COKE and you saw what happened,it was the ORIGINAL,the ONE that you grew up with and have souvenirs attached to.

The Camaro gets cancelled and a few people complain,kill the Mustang and presidents go nuts all the memories attached to the first time people rode or made out in one,it's part of Americana,it is the original,you cannot cancel it,like the Corvette.

The F-Body doesn't have the clout of Mustang,Coke,Levis or Chanel No 5 has,if it did we wouldn't have to do backflips in snowsuits to get the big Muck a Mucks attention.

The managers at GM suck,we like Scott and wish him luck,ride on DON QUIXOTES !!!!!!!!

Can the Camaro and people get upset,no more than that.
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 
No pictures...no letter...just a story....

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EXIT


It was the pain deep inside his chest that forced him to see a doctor. Oh
sure, he knew something was wrong, but, like most people, he put it off. And
put it off. How long had that pain been gnawing away? Two years? Three? At
least three. It had been there so long, it was almost taken for granted.

But lately, it had worsened. It was affecting his driving, walking, eating,
sleeping and his work. Gearheads don’t like to go to doctors, even though they
are forced to seek their services now and then. The occasional flu bug going
around, or the deep cuts from working at the machine shop. Frank had been
there before. Not too often though.

Frank sat in the doctor’s office, idly flipping through a tattered copy of
National Geographic, wishing he’d had the foresight to bring a copy of GMHTP
with him to help pass the time. He’d been in this cold, white office too many
times in the last month, what with all the check-ups, X-rays, blood tests and
other mysterious things they did to his body. The pain was still there.
Always the pain. The white-haired doctor called him into his private office
and closed the door quietly behind him. Frank knew at that moment that
something was desperately wrong. The doctor told him very quietly, patiently
and calmly what was up.

He did it so professionally that Frank listened in an almost detached manner,
as the white-haired physician told him he had only a few months to live. . .
perhaps five or six at the most.

What Frank got upset about was that he’d never heard of the disease. A lot of
Latin words strung together. Why didn’t they just call it a ball of pain in
the chest?

With more calm in his voice than he could believe, Frank asked the good doctor
about operations and alternatives. With an obvious tremble in his hands, the
doctor explained the why-nots and the where-fores of the situation. He took a
long time and ignored the blinking light on the phone.

When he stopped talking, Frank fairly well understood the mechanics behind his
doom. The doctor wrote out a prescription “for the pain” and told him to use
it as needed and to call any time the pain got too intense. There were
stronger things available for stronger pain. They shook hands and parted.

Frank drove his pick-up truck home, head whirling with thoughts. He stopped
off at In-N-Out Burger and grabbed a Double-Double and fries, and ate as he put
the 36 miles that separated his home from the medical center.

By the time he got home, Frank knew exactly what he wanted to do. He grabbed a
couple Heinekens from the fridge and sat down at his wobbly old desk. A yellow
lined pad and a felt tipped pen were extracted from the center drawer, along
with his savings account and checkbooks.

Very slowly and with much thought, Frank made a list on that clean yellow pad.
After each item, he put a price. Frank had a pretty good idea of what things
cost. Ten grand for the SLP 382 CID LS1 530 HP stroker motor, eight fifty for
the SLP long tube tuned headers, thirteen hundred for the Wilwood Superlite 6
piston brake kit with slotted and cross drilled rotors, thirty large for the
car. Then there were the other trick goodies; SLP CAI and airlid, BMR lower
control arms, panhard rod, strut-tower brace, and sub-frame connectors, Koni
double adjustable shocks, Hypercoil one and a quarter drop springs, Moser 12
bolt rear-end, custom burned ECM program, Energy Suspension poly sway bushings
and endlinks, a GMMG chambered exhaust system, the best tires money could buy.
. . in fact, the best of everything.

When he completed the list and added it up, he gave a low whistle. The total
came to over fifty thousand dollars. A check of his bank and checkbooks showed
that he had more than enough to cover the cost. He slowly savored three more
Heinekens that evening. Sleep came easy, in spite of that ever-present pain in
his chest.

The next morning was spent cleaning out his garage. He shaped it up to
perfection, then made a trip to the bank and withdrew a tidy sum of cash.
Frank then stopped off at his favorite place and spent a considerable amount of
that cash on new tools. The good stuff; Snap-On, S-K, top-of-the-line sockets
and wrenches. And then he bought a shiny new red Craftsmen two piece
roll-around toolbox.

It gave him an odd pleasure to peel off the fifty dollar bills to pay for the
tools. The salesman helped him load everything in the back of the pickup and
Frank then headed home to drop off his new toys and switch vehicles.

Frank grabbed his keys to his 97 Camaro Z28 and headed down to the Chevrolet
dealer. The sales manager knew him by his first name and they exchanged the
usual pleasantries. Casually, with a slight smile of glee, Frank told the man
to write up the paperwork on that car – that one right over there – he would
purchase it and pulled out his checkbook to drive the message home. Frank
didn’t squabble at the trade-in amount offered for his Z28 and much to the
surprise and expectations of the sales manager, did not haggle one cent on the
new car.

Frank just stood there and looked at that gorgeous red car with the silver
stripes, the last of them, the 2002 35th Edition LE Camaro SS. Frank found it
sadly ironic that his beloved f-body, born in 1967 as he himself was, would
also cease to exist in the year 2002. Over the years he had owned so many of
these fantastic vehicles. He loved them from the time when he was a small
child, too young to drive, but not too young to dream.

He spent that night online placing the orders for the parts that he could not
get locally. His only request from each vendor was that everything be
delivered to his home before the end of the week. He checked off items on that
yellow legal pad. Sleep came hard.

Early the next morning, Frank pulled the new SS into the center of the garage
and put it up on jack stands. Parts were carefully removed with the shiny new
tools and placed in various cardboard boxes that were marked with a thick felt
tip pen. Then he placed them on shelves.

By the end of the week, the stock powerplant was out. The new, bad-boy, SLP
stroker motor was dropped off by the freight transport-company. The man in the
big brown truck was coming just about every day. Frank so enjoyed hearing
that UPS truck rumble up the street and stop in front of his house. It was
like Christmas every day.

The days went by slowly and pleasantly. Frank did not answer the telephone and
did not open any mail. He only left the garage to make trips to the machine
shop, or to the speed shop for needed odds and ends.

With the arrival of all the main components, the gutted SS started to take
shape again. Parts started to fall into place. Some things required
drilling, bending, shaping and fitting. Frank carefully fitted each and every
piece with patience until he was satisfied that it was perfect.

By the time three weeks rolled by, Frank was forced to stop by the pharmacy and
get that prescription filled. The pharmacist looked a bit startled when he
read the doctors scrawl and placed a call to check it out. Frank took a
double-dose of pain killers to sleep that night, but he woke up so fuzzy headed
the next morning that he flushed the remaining pills down the toilet.

It took one more week before the car was completed. Naturally, enough the last
two bolts were snubbed in place well into the wee hours of the morning.
Frank poured some 76 competition 110-octane race fuel into the tank, got in the
SS, inserted the key and turned it.

It took a few seconds for the big 382 to light off, but when it did, the sound
from the chambered exhaust was pure music. The motor responded cleanly and
instantly with a rapping snarl. Frank ran the SS for five minutes, ignoring
the blue haze filling up the garage, then shut off the lights and went to bed.

Early the next morning, he rose and went out to the garage. About an hour
was spent checking over nuts and bolts for tightness. Frank
then pulled the beast out of the garage and nudged the factory Hurst into first
and eased away. She pulled strongly, satisfyingly, through the gears. Not a
hint of a flat spot, or even a burble, as the revs rose. Once on the highway
the SS responded like an F16 when the pedal was depressed. The lonely,
sparsely used highway was gobbled up in blinding triple digit speeds. Chomping
at the bit to be fully released, the SS appeared to have no end to its power.

He stopped off at his favorite restaurant and had steak and eggs and several
cups of scalding hot black coffee. The waitress smiled from ear to ear when he
left a whole crisp fifty dollar bill with the check.

Thirty minutes later, Frank arrived at his favorite mountain road “testing”
area. He got out and stretched his legs and breathed in the fresh morning air,
listening to the sweet rumble of that gorgeous red chariot. The sun was just
coming up to the east. Good.

Frank got back in the car and followed the leisurely winding two-lane road
through the valley and caught the old fire access road heading up the mountain
side. The smoothly paved road had just the perfect surface for letting it all
hang out.

Once he got the feel of the SS, Frank started to stuff it into the turns
letting the rear end hang out. Using the point and shoot method from turn to
turn, the car would devour the straight-aways only to be begrudgingly hauled
down from speed by those big 6 piston Wilwoods. The cycle repeated itself
without a trace of brake fade. The exhaust note wailing off the steep canyon
walls. As the road climbed, Frank was forced to use a lower gear and rev the
engine harder to maintain his speed. A thin sheet of perspiration covered his
forehead and face. . . he breathed harder and worked the car deeper into turns.

As Frank neared the summit, he saw the last wide sweeping corner before the
road ended at a scenic viewpoint. It was clearly marked with white barriers
to keep wayward vehicles from plummeting off the vertical drop.

Frank smiled, took a deep breath, let the revs rise and aimed the nose directly
at the flimsy barriers. The white wood snapped cleanly and the car sailed out
into the clear blue air. Frank held tightly onto the leather wrapped wheel and
sailed and sailed and sailed. He had always wondered what it might be like.

And now he knew.
 

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Posted by Happy_Dan (Member # 118) on :
 
sheesh, ask for a little help to try and bring something back to life that we all love and we get 20,000 words. Why not spend that same time, effort and words and put something positive in a letter and mail it to Scott?
 

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Posted by Jana (Member # 2029) on :
 
Lord Almighty!! Cliffs notes??! I have ADD.
 

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Posted by TimeLord (Member # 1389) on :
 
MMMM_ert !!! You could have used MOBY DICK,staring GM as the White whale,and yourself as AHAB,it would work!!!

Couldn't resist,too many similarities!!!!!
 

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Posted by 99 HOSS (Member # 109) on :
 
Since I'm home from business travel this week, I'll put pen to paper and drop you a line. I've got about half a dozen photos to include, too.
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 

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Originally posted by TimeLord:
MMMM_ert !!! You could have used MOBY DICK,staring GM as the White whale,and yourself as AHAB,it would work!!!

Couldn't resist,too many similarities!!!!!

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The story was just a way of showing a love
affair between one man and the Camaro...
 

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Posted by KenC (Member # 189) on :
 
could yall build one ...that has a special section in the back for me to transport wolfdogs in?????



 

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Posted by 2002Z4CSS (Member # 1393) on :
 
I will get some picture and mail them to you.
 

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Posted by SSHEETS (Member # 1989) on :
 
Geez, A guy leaves for 4 days to be a father and the Fbody world falls apart!!! Scott, why didn't you summon me with the re-worked gotham city SS light?

I have written before and I shall write again. All of my good pictures are digital ...I do have a couple at the dealership when I picked him up.

Timelord...you saying there's something wromg with tracking you car mile by mile on each trimester of its birthing process
 

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Posted by Old Coyote (Member # 1343) on :
 
Just want to verify that you received the pictures I sent of the "Bowtie Garage" ............ if something happened and you did not receive them, I will gladly take more pictures and re-send.

John
 

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Posted by RagSS (Member # 1127) on :
 
...sorry for my (no excuse) delay ... , ...I'll get this done, ...that's a promise.

Kevin
 

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Posted by westell (Member # 2034) on :
 
I'm in ! Count on it. Didn't see the other site's post.
Least I can do
 

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Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
 

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Originally posted by MMMM_ERT:
No pictures...no letter...just a story....

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Originally posted by Hawk196:
[Costanza mode on]

Myrtle, we love you.........

we love your choice in cars......

we love your opinion about the F-Body and life in general........

keep up the good, positive posts.......

Thanks, for being you......

Tom

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Posted by TimeLord (Member # 1389) on :
 
Nice thoughts

Thank you!!!

[ 19. April 2004, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: TimeLord ]
 

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Posted by WayneSS01 (Member # 734) on :
 
From our club homepage...

"The Pontiac Experience" by Patrick Ray
The following essay was written by our own BFBA Treasurer/Secretary, Patrick Ray. It was originally posted on Camaroz28.com where it was spotted by one of the editors of GM High-Tech Performance magazine. He was asked by GMHTP if they could publish his work in their magazine and he agreed. You can read his article in the September 2001 issue on page 24.
I walked into Books-A-Million Friday afternoon to grab up the newest copy of GMHTP (March 2001). I was almost disappointed when I picked up the cover and saw “Game Over”. “Game Over? What’s that suppose to mean?” I asked myself. Who is GMHTP to say when it’s Game Over? As I began to flip through article after article of negative fact, not negative opinion, it began to hit me exactly how close we actually are to seeing the demise of the F-Body.

I finally found myself on page 38 glaring at a 2-page spread entitled, “By The Numbers” . Comparing the F-body and Mustang year after year, I realized just how low the sales numbers actually were in the scheme of things. I read F-Body owner after F-Body owner disappointed at the soon coming doomsday, I read Mustang driver after Mustang driver feeling the same way. I thought to myself, "At least the death of a car designed for the enthusiast, has not been forgotten by the enthusiast".

The article after ”By The Numbers” is entitled, ”Alternative Boost” . The article that falls directly after the talks of the demise of the F-Body is one that slaps onto a 1996 SS, a complete Turbo Technology kit. GMHTP continued to comment on how much development was required to make a Turbo kit work underneath the hood of a tight LT1 engine bay. They talked of how complete the kit is, everything you could possibly need found itself into a package deal. So there is was, the Turbonetics 60-1 Turbo, the F-Body's perfect compliment. It began to occur to me that while the car might die, the aftermarket will not. Following in the footsteps of Ford’s 5.0 Mustang and Buick’s Grand National, the F-Body will inevitably join the ranks of the go cheap, go fast Hot Rod.

I sat there for over an hour meticulously reading every square inch of the current Bi-Monthly issue of GMHTP. After a while, I picked up the Magazine, honestly feeling quite down on myself, and went to pay. The sun had since gone down, and the rain started to pour as I hit the remote unlock, then opened the door and slid into the cockpit of the Trans Am. I sat there for a second and gripped my Hot Wheels steering wheel cover, just thinking about nothing. As she had every time for the past 80,000 miles, Christina fired up strong on the first crank. We hit the main road and Christina began to drive, as I began to think about what it was to sit behind the steering wheel taking in all that the Pontiac Experience has to offer. I came to the conclusion that there are two ways to look at the death of the F-Body, the wrong way, and the real way.

The F-Body was not designed to appeal to 16-year-old squealing teenage girls who want a cute little car. The F-Body was not designed to haul home your brand new lawnmower from Home Depot. The F-Body was not designed to be as comfortable as a Camry, no; it was not designed like a Mustang. Don’t get me wrong, I love the Mustang. The Mustang owns a heritage that is like no other. It has a backing of its on enthusiasts, and it represents a common bond in more ways than just “RWD V8”. Setting that aside, the Mustang was not designed with performance 100% in mind. Does it perform? Yes, very well at that, but the main goal of the Mustang the past decade has been, “how many can we sell?” IMO, design has been compromised over function. Ford has done something right for business though, they’ve figured out how to appeal to the masses. They accomplished their goal. The way I see it, they accomplished their goal almost as well as GM accomplished theirs. GM’s goal was to build an enthusiasts car, a man’s man performance machine, and they have done so. GM has moved leaps and bounds past the Mustang project the past decade, leaving not only Ford, but everyone else in the dust. The Pontiac Experience is one that’s raw in nature. It’s a love it or hate it relationship, there is no in between. Cruising through downtown Auburn in the pouring rain, on a Friday night I remembered one of life’s little lessons, “Life is 10% what happens, and 90% how you react to it.” I realized that the low sales the past 2 years (76,000 total units, each year of ’99 and ’00, Camaro, Firebird, V6, V8,) mean that GM is doing its job. It’s appealing to the enthusiast. It takes a certain kind of driver to sit behind the wheel of an F-Body. We do not care about power seats, or lighted vanity mirrors. We feel comfortable in mile long dashes and hoods that sink below the windshield, in bulgy curves that fall along the body lines of the beloved beasts that we bond with on a daily basis. Complaints of visibility and function are all opinions of people who shouldn’t have ever attempted to set a foot inside the Pontiac Experience.

The Pontiac Experience is one that is reserved for an exclusive club of elitists. We have no room for giggly 16-year-old teenage girls and people who complain about the very essence that is the Pontiac Experience. Sinking into the leather seats, riding low, kissing every curve as I shifted gears, I realized the perfection of the enthusiast who slides behind the driver’s wheel as every control finds itself in perfect placement. The Pontiac Experience loves long doors and low seats; it craves a long dash that conceals 1/3 of a massive 350 power plant underneath itself. The Pontiac Experience lives for function over form. It’s not your momma’s Camry or you daddy’s Crown Vic, its raw and aggressive in its simplest form, yet one finds himself feeling sophisticated with the best of them behind the wheel. That’s what the Pontiac Experience is about. It’s reserved for the few who are worthy of it, and the few that can truly appreciate it for all that its worth. We should be thanking GM for what they have done for us. GM has spent the past decade pouring manpower and money into developing a car for the enthusiast. They have extensively labored to bring us a car, that if different in anyway, would no longer be reserved exclusively for the minority. How often do we see such a large effort to satisfy the requirements of such a small group of people?

No, I don’t believe that the F-Body is dead. The F-Body will never die because there are enthusiasts like us who will hold on to everything that the F-Body stands for. Weather or not the F-Body returns in 2005 is irrelevant. It’s unambiguous that we will keep the F-Body alive. GM may choose to no longer make them, but we are the ones who will ultimately decide to destroy them, or embrace the heritage. Its not open to debate, we are not being placed under fire; we alone keep the Pontiac Experience alive.

As mentioned in this month’s issue of GMHTP, as the last units are sold, the last of the machinery is disassembled, and the last of the warranties run out, the aftermarket will explode. The LS series of motors have been the greatest power plants to come out of GM in its history, and they aren’t dead yet. All I have to say about it is, “Watch out Mustang guys. We aren’t whipped and we aren’t even close to being finished yet. In fact, we’re just getting warmed up. So Get in, Sit Down, Shut Up, and Hold On. Mustang and Import enthusiasts alike, you ain’t seen nothing yet.”
 

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Posted by CamaroSCG (Member # 1591) on :
 
That's a great letter from Patrick!
 

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Posted by westell (Member # 2034) on :
 
Just finished my letter and it is on the way !

Good Luck Scott !
 

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Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on :
 
Working on it Scott - it's a long story - from the start with the SSOA, through my 9/11 experience,though BG,...you get the idea. I'll have it in a few days.
 

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Posted by Fbodfather (Member # 1119) on :
 
OK....I've posted this on a couple of boards...and I hope I don't upset the innocent...

I just get very frustrated when the community is threatened or someone posts something that divides it...I dunno...perhaps I'm guilty as well......

.....but here goes.......


It has taken me a while to respond to the various "incidents" on this and several boards over the past couple of weeks.....but I believe it was important to use good thought and judgement before responding.

Sooo....go get a cup of coffee or a soda.......this is gonna be long.

I’ve always loved the Camaro..(just as most of you have) ..have since I first saw one on September 10, 1966. It's obvious that the Camaro and Firebird are special cars....great looks, great styling, great performance.

However, there's something else.....and that something else has grown over the years...and that something else is the PEOPLE.

I found out that I was not the only one that felt this way...there were tens of thousands out there that felt just as strongly...and perhaps hundreds of thousands that felt damn close to the way I feel. AND...I found out that there are a few that feel even stronger than I do (if that’s possible) toward these great cars....the Camaro and Firebird...
I continue to tell anyone who will listen that part of what makes Camaro and Firebird so special is the PEOPLE. ( I even put that in the brochure in, I believe 2001)

Thus, I was determined to support the Camaro Enthusiast community to the best of my ability when I came on the team. I also determined that it was just as important to support the Firebird community as well, but quite frankly, I don’t know as much about the Firebird as I’d like...esp. the early years.

Part of the reason for doing this is I very quickly realized that there are a LOT of people out there that spend a LOT of time, effort, money, etc to support the community. I wish I could list everyone, (and I realize that I run the very real risk of offending someone for not mentioning them....so I apologize upfront.)

Take Hovig. Here’s an enthusiastic young man who has such a passion for his SS. So much so that he developed a website where like minded people could get together -- kick back -- and enjoy talking to each other. He put his own time and financial resources to work to do this for all of us. It was not...and is not -- an easy task.

Look at Andy Archer....a fellow in suburban Atlanta that puts up his own money...then works himself to the bone to put on a great Fbody event every year over Memorial Day. Talk about dedication.....this man has gone into serious debt to continue to bring us, the enthusiasts, a great weekend of fellowship. That debt does NOT go away when we all get in our cars and leave at the end of the event every year....but he continues to do so.

Teri Heino...and her husband Steve......Teri and Steve work late into the night to put together a great owner packet for those who join the SSOA......they put up some serious cash to have a limited edition Camaro SS diecasts made for the Annual Fcar gathering in Bowling Green.....and when they didn’t all sell....wellll......let’s say they have a lot more models now....more than they did a year ago. They also have less cash than they did a year ago.

Jason Debler......a young energetic guy in suburban Detroit who got together with his pal Chris Frezza to put together the largest Camaro website in the world.......they spend countless hours moderating this site and answering questions and travelling to shows all summer long.

Karl, Ralph, and Rick...and their lovely brides...who founded the American Camaro Association......and work so hard to put on "Camaros at Carlisle" every year.....


Larry Christensen of suburban Denver....who talks to Camaro enthusiasts late into the night -- helping them find ‘that one special part’ ...or trying to figure out where that "leftover bolt" came from.........

The many workers within the Camaro and Firebird Clubs all over the world that take time to work hard...and invest money....to put on great weekend events where we can all go and feel welcome....I dare say "like one of the family."


The list could go on forever....(and again, please don’t be offended if I left you out....there are SO MANY of you out there.........)

These people show real dedication...but I would also say to you that while they, for the most part, are great supporters of Chevrolet, Pontiac, SLP, etc, they don’t ‘follow blindly’.....believe me...they don’t.

They don’t have any problems telling me when they think we messed up real good. But they have what I would call "decorum." They realize that this Enthusiast Community is REALLY SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL......it is strong, but at the same time, fragile. It includes men and women, boys and girls, all races and religions, many different nationalities...and while we are all unique, there is a thread that brings us all together...and that thread is the Camaro and the Firebird.

Now....why do I get upset?

Someone once said that television changed the world. I’d agree...but I think it pales in comparison to the internet. We can contact just about anyone worldwide very easily and inexpensively....the bad news is that the written word lasts, unlike spoken words which can fade. Moreover, the written word does not allow for voice inflection. And, it could be argued that the written word CAN be taken out of context..esp. if you type fast. Furthermore, it is all too easy to ‘fire away’ at the keyboard...sometimes without thinking. And lastly.....there is the ‘anonymous factor‘ ......trolls, if you will.

I posted a few weeks back that I needed some help from the community. I need to prove to a few people that the Camaro Brand is a superbrand......

Now..what do I mean by superbrand?

Well.....a brand that causes people to tattoo themselves with the very name of the brand....that people build "shrines" to these great cars....that people decorate their entire houses and apartments with Camaroabilia........swimming pools with the logo on the floor of the pool........mailboxes painted to look like their Camaro...the list goes on and on. Perhaps I didn’t explain every reason why I was asking for this stuff...and perhaps that’s why some jumped to conclusions...which, quite frankly, is only human nature. Part of the problem is that I’m prohibited (and rightfully so) for telling you everything and about why I'm doing this.

Over two weeks go by and the results were disheartening...so I posted a ‘rant’...and maybe that wasn’t a good idea.......but I basically said....hey....some of you just love to complain.......and I need help...you wanna help? Get busy and send me stuff and stop complaining long enough to do it (not a quote...)

Now...some, I’m sure thought "heck...I already sent a letter to GM...or to Scott....or to the CamaroZ28.com site....or the WCA site.....and they didn’t listen and it did no good." And I can perhaps now see why you’d think that.

Rest assured, I have BOX upon BOX of letters, cards, pictures, banners, website postings, etc..........and they HAVE been used....and they WILL continue to be used. However, I think a scrapbook of sorts with "over the top’ stuff is the perfect introduction to the rest of what I have. It might just make one or two people sit up and take notice.

(a point or two of clarification...I am NOT at the top of the corporate ladder...far from it. And those at the top rungs have hellacious schedules. Their days....and evenings....are planned by the minute......from the time they awaken ‘til the time they close their eyes at night. They simply do not have the luxury of sitting down at a computer and logging onto a website to take the temperature out there............there is just too much to do and not enough time to do it in...and the decisions they’re faced with each day can involve thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars in only one or two decisions made. Trust me, I’ve been with GM for 27 years and I’m STILL amazed at how Mr. Lutz and Mr. Cowger and the men and women around them are able to do it! However, I believe that it is a good idea to get stuff to those decision makers...whether they asked for it or not...........................................................)

and one last point of clarification...Mr. Lutz did not kill the Camaro and Firebird. The decision to take the 4th gen out of production was made long before he came back to GM.

Back to the business at hand.......

So......I log onto a website on Saturday morning....and damned if the thread hasn’t been hijacked once again........

Rather than let well enough alone, there goes the GM Bashing......we hear once again about problems...not solutions. And NOTHING was said that hadn’t been said many many times before on more than one or two boards.

I gotta ask the question:

What was the purpose of this?

Did it serve any good purpose?

Did it do anything to further the cause?

I don’t see that it did.

All it did was to divide the community.

And I resent the hell out of it.

Not because they perhaps don’t like GM..but I resent the hell out of it because it takes all the hard work that Hovig, and Andy, and Teri, and Karl, and Ralph, and Rick, and Jason, and Chris, and Steve, and the hundreds of others out there and it damages it. (unintentionally, perhaps, but nevertheless, hurts the progress made.)

Yes...we have free speech in this great country of ours. But I’m tired of people standing behind that right and doing damage.

Perhaps if we all (and I include myself in this...) practiced the Golden Rule, there would be less problems. Perhaps if we thought before we typed, there would be less hard feelings.


Got a problem with me? Come to me.....Got a problem with SLP.....go to SLP. Yes..it’s OK to tell the world that you’re angry. Tell them once. It is unnecessary to continue to harp and harp and harp...and divide the community.

So....this has been long...I’m not yet done.......but I’ll sign off for now.

I ask everyone to think before they type. I ask them to think about what they’re typing...and who they really are hurting....and what their agenda really is. And one last thing: Stop playing the victim when you’re called on bad behavior.

Hovig deserves so much better from us.

I will continue to lurk on this board .....unless the foolishness continues. Then I will leave. That doesn’t mean much, quite frankly....but I ask you this......How many others will eventually feel the same way and quietly leave without telling you?

One last thought...for those of you on other boards......if the shoe fits, put it on, lace it up...and wear it.....

[ 25. April 2004, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: Fbodfather ]
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 
Well....I guess that was aimed at Serge and myself since we are the only two to voice
our displeasure with GM. Got no beef with
you Scott, never have, nor do I have any
"agenda". You may not like my responses, but
you can be sure they will be HONEST. Some people
do not like that I guess. I felt my response
here was honest and respectful. Sorry, I don't
see the GM world through rose-colored glasses
like many others here. Personally, I feel GM needs to
hear that people are unhappy with them. As you
put it...."how many will silently leave without
speaking out".

In all honesty, I sincerely hope GM brings back
the Camaro. I love these cars as much as the
next guy. If, however, they should come back, I
will only admire the new ones from afar. I don't
ever see myself buying a new GM product again not
after this last experience. Sad isn't it? I
used to "fight to the death" in defending GM like
everyone else here does. Five years ago, my wife
and I owned 3 Camaros....we are down to 1 now.
We have been treated better by another automobile
manufacturer and thats tough to beat in my book.

On a side note: I've seen snide comments asking
why do I come to these boards still if I "HATE"
GM so much.

1.) I *STILL* own a Camaro (one which I will NEVER part with)
2.) for THE PEOPLE and FRIENDS, its not about a car for me...never was.


Peace.
 

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Posted by SSHEETS (Member # 1989) on :
 
Scott as usual your eloquence is second only to your love of the Fbody.

I have tried to describe the lack of context that can so easily take a good message astray when words are typed in black and white and often read with less than friendly posture. The Internet has some great qualities; it knows not the color, gender or race of those that type away at the keyboard. It also knows not the intent or the level of malice that may lay behind the mask of anonymity.

I have a tremendous amount of respect for those that you’ve mentioned and many you did not.

While I am certainly not without fault, I have tried very hard to keep my mind clear and my ears open to the thoughts on all sides of the issues. We all know the world is not perfect and GM is a part of this imperfect world. They are in business to make money and so we must show them a market segment that still has fruit to bear. It's a fine line between voicing criticism and bashing away at the creator of the cars we all love.

The best visual picture I can muster is from two years ago...I was picking up my daughter at school and I drove by the playground. A couple young boys, maybe 5th grade walked by and one said, "wow dude check it out, a Super Sport!"

Oh and untapped market segment...here's two perspective 5th gen Camaro buyers that know more about Chevrolets than most (except for the kids of the parents in here) elementary school children. This picture was taken in front of our church when my wife and I renewed our wedding vows on our tenth anniversary. You remember my wife, she also has the initials SS and still has the SS flag you gave...I've tried to take from her, but no way will she let me near it



Keep in mind that even priests argue about how they should preach to their flocks. They certainly all agree on their love of god, but when you have more than one human involved 100% agreement is an impossibility.

[ 26. April 2004, 01:40 AM: Message edited by: SSHEETS ]
 

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Posted by RagSS (Member # 1127) on :
 
My thoughts...
You know, it really gets me when I read a post like this from Scott, and to know he's trying to do the right thing, yet has to deal with the, ...well what he has to deal with.
He doesn't need it, he's NOT asking why you don't like the Camaro, he's asking (for those who care) for POSITIVE input as to why you DO.
I'd challenge anyone (including those who his post is directed toward, ...who I don't know NOR DO I CARE TO KNOW) to stand in his shoes and deal with the crap he deals with (you wouldn't last, ...you'd give up in frustration). The guy asks for POSITIVE, SUPPORTIVE comments, letters, etc., and it appears there are those that still need to make 'their' point, ...for what, I don't know (it has nothing to do with what was asked). I could go on, ...but what for (Scott summed it up quite well).
Do I think the Camaro is "THE" car, the car with no faults?, the best car ever made?, ...of course not. Could I go on to post what I don't like about it?, ...absolutely,...but that is NOT what is being asked.
So, if you've got positive things to say that will help the cause, ...please get those letters in. If on the other hand, you don't, ...go somewhere else to make your point.

I've been a fan of the Camaro for many years, I'd like to see it return. If there is something I can do to help that cause, you bet I'll do my part.
...just my .02 cents.

Kevin
 

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Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
 

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Originally posted by Fbodfather:

It has taken me a while to respond to the various "incidents" on this and several boards over the past couple of weeks.....

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Originally posted by MMMM_ERT:
In all honesty, I sincerely hope GM brings back
the Camaro. I love these cars as much as the
next guy.

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I am on your side here!

Damn, people, take a deep breath. I have NEVER slammed
Scott, my comments on GM were restrained and I even contributed a STORY!

I am certainly not trying to change anyones
mind...I hope nobody here EVER allows anyone
to change their mind for them in regards to
any subject. Make YOUR OWN informed decisions.

On a side note...can I get my title to be
"misunderstood"....
 

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Posted by Hawk196 (Member # 2175) on :
 

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Originally posted by MMMM_ERT:
Hey Tom,

I don't know who you are and you obviously carry some grudge toward me for whatever reason. Here's some good advice...

1.) Don't like my opinions/views...don't read then
2.) Got a problem with me...PM me, though I
doubt I will respond, you aren't worth a longer
response than this.

The only way you'll get me to stop voicing my
opinions/views is to get the admins to ban me.

Now, I have at least tried to be respectful in
Scotts thread, you should do the same.

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You don't know me, but WE ALL KNOW YOU (your EGO insist we do!)

1)I try my hardest to not read your posts but your alway trying to get the last word.....and it really gets OLD

2)PM you........PPPFFFFTTT...yeah right

Respectful...in Scott's thread

"You're SO vain you probably thing this threads about you (and Serge...as you pointed out)"

Tom
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 

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Originally posted by Happy_Dan:

MMEERRRTT, I fully respect your opinion and in fact love BMW's. I

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Scott is asking us to send him Camaro memoribilia so he can make a case for us.

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Originally posted by KenC:
could yall build one ...that has a special section in the back for me to transport wolfdogs in?????

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Hurst built one that was a station wagon.... would that work for ya?


Fbodfather, this may be a tad-off topic, but is firebird stuff welcome too? If so, i'll gladly send in some pictures of my centercaps and things i went through to make them.
 

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Posted by TimeLord (Member # 1389) on :
 
Just to let you ALL know,sent my stuff to Scott with

"twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each
one was to be used as evidence against us. Took pictures of the approach,
the getaway, the northwest corner the southwest corner and that's not to
mention the aerial photography."

So ride on Don Quixote in your quest to slay the cancellation dragon!!!!!
 

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Posted by MCKNBRD (Member # 2238) on :
 
Reflections from a LOYAL GM owner...

(Scott, apologies if this isn't exactly on topic, but it goes to the heart of the passion we feel for the cars, and the fact that hope springs eternal...)

Well, I just got back from the Spring Sale at Carlisle, PA and I have a few revelations for GM…maybe Scott will hear me (and he may even silently agree), but I think the rest of GM’s leadership needs to have its collective pulse checked.

First off, let me start by saying that I’m incredibly biased. I know, the rest of you aren’t brand loyal and don’t give a rat’s patootie whether its American made or not, but I do. There aren’t many foreign cars that do much for me, and I exercise my right to vote with my wallet whenever I can. Of the American brands, I prefer GM…I guess it comes from my Dad being a Chevy man, and I’ve always worked on and been around GM products. Besides, look at the classic car market…very few non-GM American products bring high dollars on the auction block or at car sales. Anyway, I just thought I’d go ahead and preface the following commentary with a position statement…I’m INSANELY brand loyal…I’d rather push a GM product than drive a Ford…but that’s just me.

Having said that, I was in ‘heaven’ this weekend…classic first gen Camaros and Firebirds…tri-fives all over the place…64, 65, 67 Goats...Corvettes, solid axle cars all the way up to an 03 Z06…Impalas (the real ones, 58-63) with big blocks and 3 twos…old trucks, Caddys…all kinds of stuff that just made me wish I had about $90k to blow on a car or two…

But, on reflection, it saddened me, too. It saddened me to think that there is nearly NOTHING in GM’s lineup that makes me go ‘DAMN!!! I’ve GOT to have that!’…As much as I like the concept of the GTO, and it is a nice car, I just don’t get all jazzed up about it…same with the SSR…the C5 and C6 are nice, but they’re a little more money than I can consider right now…the Cobalt [yawn]…the Monte Carlo SS……Impala SS…you’re seeing the point. We’re promised to hold on, that performance isn’t dead at GM, and just wait a couple of years and we’ll be blown away by what rolls out of Detroit…and they’re right…it will be a top secret piece of [yawn] engineering that we can’t wait to laugh at. GM needs to get something out that has mass appeal, and quit promising the moon. I’m fairly hopeful of the Solstice, even if it isn’t a V8 muscle car.

I’m forced to look to the past to find inspiration from GM…something to work for, something I’ve GOT to have…I can only imagine being a 18 or 19 year old kid, walking into a dealership and seeing a 69 Camaro Z28 with the 302, and looking over and seeing a Chevelle with some SERIOUS horsepower…those days are long gone…walk into a dealership today, and you’re inundated with salesmen that are trying to tell you about the great performance of the Cobalt or the incredible rush that you get from the Aveo…

Scott, please tell your bosses that we’re tired of extra-medium cars…we want to be blown away by a car, not just impressed with a shotgun-blast marketing blitz that hopes to sell something to someone by scattering the offerings into every market segment.

Looking back at what Lutz did for D-C, I’d venture to guess that one Viper did more than 10 new offerings in one year.

GM needs a Viper. Not a re-vamped ‘vette (a-la Z06), but a balls-out, go for the jugular, kick-ass car that turns peoples heads, and motivates your engineers and workers.

Byrdman
(a disgruntled, but nevertheless loyal, GM fan)
 

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Posted by 380SS (Member # 2078) on :
 
Good morning all.

I for one have a deep appreciation for the Camaro, so deep that, when given an opportunity to acquire my dream car (while serving our country deep inside Iraq) I seized the moment. With the use of satellite phones and a very shaky Internet system, I contacted Tom Henry of Tom Henry Chevrolet to arrange purchase of my TH380SS Camaro.

I did not realize that fate would try and derail my dreams by trying to take my life away some four days later. I met all of you through Tom and Scott and read each of your posts during my recovery in Germany. Each of you inspired me in one way or another and helped me mentally get back on my feet.

While recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical center, Tom called me and made it known that if I had second thoughts about purchasing the car from him, he would completely understand. I told him I wanted that car now more than ever; I was determined to own that car.

The connection I made with all of you is credited largely in part to the Camaro. I owe much of my recovery to my family, you, and to the Camaro. Every day that I get inside my car, I cannot help but think how I acquired this car. How well received I was into THIS family, and how many friends I made as a direct result to owning a Camaro.

I sit here today at 0354 in much pain as a result of surgery I went through yesterday. Painfully banging away at these keys but determined to show my appreciation for the Camaro and to all of you

My story is no better than any other story surrounding the Camaro. We’ve all achieve our dreams and goals by one attribute, determination. That in my opinion is what Camaro stands for, and that is why we make the bets owners of this type of car. If the Camaro is determined to make a comeback, then you can bet the house it will. Good people will refuse to let it just fade away.

I look forward to the day where I will get to shake your hands and personally thank you for your support to your country and to me and my family. Until then, take care and keep the faith.

Patrick
 

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Posted by Hawk196 (Member # 2175) on :
 
Patrick,

Get well, get home and GET IN THAT CAR!

Thanks for your service to this Country!

Tom
 

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Posted by MMMM_ERT (Member # 1599) on :
 
Patrick, get well quick.

God Bless you and the rest of our troops for
everything you have done for the rest of us
and our country.

Awesome post.

quote:

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Originally posted by 380SS:
Good morning all.

I for one have a deep appreciation for the Camaro, so deep that, when given an opportunity to acquire my dream car (while serving our country deep inside Iraq) I seized the moment. With the use of satellite phones and a very shaky Internet system, I contacted Tom Henry of Tom Henry Chevrolet to arrange purchase of my TH380SS Camaro.

I did not realize that fate would try and derail my dreams by trying to take my life away some four days later. I met all of you through Tom and Scott and read each of your posts during my recovery in Germany. Each of you inspired me in one way or another and helped me mentally get back on my feet.

While recovering at Walter Reed Army Medical center, Tom called me and made it known that if I had second thoughts about purchasing the car from him, he would completely understand. I told him I wanted that car now more than ever; I was determined to own that car.

The connection I made with all of you is credited largely in part to the Camaro. I owe much of my recovery to my family, you, and to the Camaro. Every day that I get inside my car, I cannot help but think how I acquired this car. How well received I was into THIS family, and how many friends I made as a direct result to owning a Camaro.

I sit here today at 0354 in much pain as a result of surgery I went through yesterday. Painfully banging away at these keys but determined to show my appreciation for the Camaro and to all of you

My story is no better than any other story surrounding the Camaro. We’ve all achieve our dreams and goals by one attribute, determination. That in my opinion is what Camaro stands for, and that is why we make the bets owners of this type of car. If the Camaro is determined to make a comeback, then you can bet the house it will. Good people will refuse to let it just fade away.

I look forward to the day where I will get to shake your hands and personally thank you for your support to your country and to me and my family. Until then, take care and keep the faith.

Patrick

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Originally posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS:
Patrick,
I am keeping the hope that you'll be able to join us on our way to Bowling Green, KY in September. Steve and I are very much looking forward to you being a part of our caravan along the way and SSOA ThurSSday activities once we get there.

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I plan on going. Can't wait to put faces with these names.
 

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Posted by ss_rs_z (Member # 1888) on :
 
Scott I mailed my letter and pic of my tattoo to your attention this morning. I always keep my promises and you should receive it no later than Monday.
 

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Posted by FireChicken (Member # 2067) on :
 
Fbodfather: how about firebird stuff as well? Would pictures of my centercaps be appropriate for your collection???
 

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Posted by 2002 SLP SS (Member # 1893) on :
 
Scott sent mine out this morning!
 

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Posted by sscamaro (Member # 1330) on :
 
I have been a GM person since my second car,a 1950 Olds with a Rocket "88" which I bought in 1953.I've owned 23 GM cars since then and 8 of them have been Camaros.I can honestly say I have not had any major problems with any of my GM cars. Maybe I am lucky, but then I must be lucky to own all those GM cars. Keep up the good work Scott. I hope you got the picture I sent you of my mail box.
 

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Posted by Raven (Member # 1962) on :
 
Speechless
 

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Posted by Mike2001SS (Member # 2088) on :
 
Scott mine is in the mail sorry it took so long have been really busy lately
 

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Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on :
 
Scott:

OK finally got it done, and it's on its way. I could have added more but you and I are both getting old just waiting for this much!

Rich
 

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Posted by RacerDave71 (Member # 1865) on :
 
Folks, this is why I want the Camaro to come back.
This happened thursday night. I fine but my pride and joy...well you decide. Scott thank you for a great car. It stayed together and the seat belt saved my life.






[ 08. May 2004, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: RacerDave71 ]
 

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Posted by chrisL (Member # 97) on :
 




holy smokes. sorry to see these.

The important thing is you're ok.
 

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Posted by DaddySS (Member # 848) on :
 
...from me too.
 

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Posted by Mike2001SS (Member # 2088) on :
 
Man I hate that glad you are ok, but tell us what happened to cause this and did it roll and slide or what
 

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Posted by RacerDave71 (Member # 1865) on :
 
I must have fallen asleep. I think maybe I let the right side tires fall off the road and over corrected. I went off the road on the left side and went down an embankment. It looks like the front end hit and it threw the car endover. The front of the car was pointing towards the road and was upside down. I dont remember anything about the crash. I can remember just before and everything after, including letting myself out of my seatbelt.

I dont mean to high jack this thread but people, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE wear your seatbelt!!!
 

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Posted by JohnS (Member # 1073) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by RacerDave71:
I dont remember anything about the crash. I can remember just before and everything after, including letting myself out of my seatbelt.

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Glad you're okay. The car can be replaced.
 

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Posted by Mike2001SS (Member # 2088) on :
 
Marty looks like the car held up well and could be fixed what the verdict on that
 

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Posted by FireChicken (Member # 2067) on :
 
Glad you are safe, man. wife and daughter ok?
 

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Posted by RacerDave71 (Member # 1865) on :
 
I was by myself FC. They were at home in bed.

Mike I should here from the insurance adjuster Monday.
 

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Posted by SSHEETS (Member # 1989) on :
 
Marty...what can I say that I havent said already.


you want an 03 Formula?

I'll get back to you on what we talked about Monday morning!
 

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Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
 

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Originally posted by RacerDave71:
I must have fallen asleep. I think maybe I let the right side tires fall off the road and over corrected. I went off the road on the left side and went down an embankment. It looks like the front end hit and it threw the car endover. The front of the car was pointing towards the road and was upside down. I dont remember anything about the crash. I can remember just before and everything after, including letting myself out of my seatbelt.

I dont mean to high jack this thread but people, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE wear your seatbelt!!!

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Originally posted by Krista:
Is it to late to send anything in to Scott?
I've been contimplating what I'd like to say and what, if any, pictures I had that might help. If it's not to late I'dl iek to get something off by weeks end.

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It's not too late at all. Get crackin'!
 

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Posted by Krista (Member # 1904) on :
 

will do Teri!
 

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Posted by Mike2001SS (Member # 2088) on :
 
Scott I sent mine in over a week ago and can you give us a ball park on how many you got from around the country so far.
 

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