Can any one help me out on the info on the demise of the F-car and the Ste. Therese production facility.
I am giving an informative speech on Monday and need three sources. I really want to speak on the politics involved in the death of the f-car (which a lot of people don't seem to understand)
I know a good bit on the subject, but more would be helpful.
Thank you!
BTW I am 9 months away from being a Collge Grad!! Automotive Marketing and Management!
Sorry about the self promotion!
Scott
Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
Unfortunately, the politics are too complicated and I'm sure, proprietary information. There was discussion on CamaroZ28.com recently by "guionM", but the thread was removed. Unless you get a copy of that thread, you're going to have a tough time putting the pieces together. Most of it was rumors and supposition, but there was enough information cited from the web in various places to make it controversial (hence the removal of the thread).
Best of luck to you.
Posted by Oh2xSSivLS1 (Member # 1915) on :
I just hope someone has some "quality" info. I realize I could go on for days on the subect, but I just want to try my luck.
Posted by MM (Member # 1247) on :
It has been kept hush hush... and those that know the real story don't want to talk about it... for obvious reason such as future employment etc. Like HTWLSS said if you can get a copy of that thread you would be on the right path.... good luck on your speech.
Posted by 35TH ED/ed (Member # 1709) on :
I do know that the plant was slated for shutdown 5 years before it went down and got a reprieve. My wife was in the decomishioning (sp) group that closed the plants. I do know the person thet closed the doors for GM. Like MM said above a lot will not be known.
Posted by Happy_Dan (Member # 118) on :
Automotive marketing and your name is Scott?? You are already in!
Posted by Doug Harden (Member # 1796) on :
You can view it without registering.... he gives some good valid info... but there is still more. Without saying too much look into the polotics of the area.... and it goes deeper then tax cuts etc. There wasn't "one" single thing that killed it up there but a series of a LOT of things.....
Posted by MM (Member # 1247) on :
quote:Originally posted by Happy_Dan: Automotive marketing and your name is Scott?? You are already in!
I like your train of thought! Seriously, I would love to be a product manager. i.e. Camaro, Corvette, CTS, Firebird, GTO. I am GM through and through.
Posted by JeffY (Member # 120) on :
1. f-car couldn't/wouldn't pass new safety standards - declared dead long time ago. 2. Ste. Therese too far from the food chain to be useful. 3. plant too old and big to convert.
Posted by HotWheelSS aka HTWLSS (Member # 117) on :
quote:Originally posted by JeffY: 1. f-car couldn't/wouldn't pass new safety standards - declared dead long time ago. 2. Ste. Therese too far from the food chain to be useful. 3. plant too old and big to convert.
That's it in a nutshell. You were a bit wordy this time, Jeff. I'd love to see that turned in and see if he gets an A. It's the best summary I've seen! Posted by CamaroSCG (Member # 1591) on :
I will email you the May 25, 2002 newspaper story, "GM, union negotiate fate of Quebec plant" and 2 photos of the last 2 Fbodies to roll off the line. I hope it's useful.
GM, union negotiate fate of Quebec plant By Alison Fitzgerald / Bloomberg News Saturday, May 25, 2002 STE. THERESE, Quebec -- General Motors Corp. and the Canadian Auto Workers are negotiating on whether to keep a Quebec factory ready for new production rather than razing it after the plant closes in August. The world's largest automaker and the union probably will decide on the Ste. Therese, Quebec, factory at a Tuesday meeting, said Basil "Buzz" Hargrove, president of the Canadian Auto Workers. The plant, set to close Aug. 29, has about 1,400 workers. General Motors is reluctant to take on the costs of maintaining facilities it won't be using, company spokesman Stewart Low said. "Rather than just permanently close it, bulldoze it down or sell it, we'd like them to work with us to try to find some alternative work for the plant," Hargrove said in an interview. General Motors said last September that it would close Ste. Therese because the company was ending production of the Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird cars the plant makes. The Canadian union is trying to persuade U.S.-based automakers to save jobs in contract talks this year. The factory was built in 1965 and is larger than new plants that General Motors is building, Low said. "In today's competitive environment the prudent business decision is to dispose of property that you deem is surplus," Low said. "We've been actively disposing of surplus property." The Globe and Mail newspaper in Toronto reported earlier today that the union would push to mothball the Ste. Therese factory rather than tear it down. The best scenario would be for the automaker to reopen the factory for vehicle assembly in the future, Hargrove said. The union would also be happy to see an auto-parts supplier move into the plant once it closes, he said, noting that more than half those companies in Canada have union workers. General Motors shares fell 1 cent to $64.99. They have risen 34 percent this year.
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WOW !!!! Thank you,that is an awesome site!! Added to my favorites . Posted by Oh2xSSivLS1 (Member # 1915) on :
quote:Originally posted by CamaroSCG: I will email you the May 25, 2002 newspaper story, "GM, union negotiate fate of Quebec plant" and 2 photos of the last 2 Fbodies to roll off the line. I hope it's useful.
GM, union negotiate fate of Quebec plant By Alison Fitzgerald / Bloomberg News Saturday, May 25, 2002 STE. THERESE, Quebec -- General Motors Corp. and the Canadian Auto Workers are negotiating on whether to keep a Quebec factory ready for new production rather than razing it after the plant closes in August. The world's largest automaker and the union probably will decide on the Ste. Therese, Quebec, factory at a Tuesday meeting, said Basil "Buzz" Hargrove, president of the Canadian Auto Workers. The plant, set to close Aug. 29, has about 1,400 workers. General Motors is reluctant to take on the costs of maintaining facilities it won't be using, company spokesman Stewart Low said. "Rather than just permanently close it, bulldoze it down or sell it, we'd like them to work with us to try to find some alternative work for the plant," Hargrove said in an interview. General Motors said last September that it would close Ste. Therese because the company was ending production of the Chevrolet Camaro and Pontiac Firebird cars the plant makes. The Canadian union is trying to persuade U.S.-based automakers to save jobs in contract talks this year. The factory was built in 1965 and is larger than new plants that General Motors is building, Low said. "In today's competitive environment the prudent business decision is to dispose of property that you deem is surplus," Low said. "We've been actively disposing of surplus property." The Globe and Mail newspaper in Toronto reported earlier today that the union would push to mothball the Ste. Therese factory rather than tear it down. The best scenario would be for the automaker to reopen the factory for vehicle assembly in the future, Hargrove said. The union would also be happy to see an auto-parts supplier move into the plant once it closes, he said, noting that more than half those companies in Canada have union workers. General Motors shares fell 1 cent to $64.99. They have risen 34 percent this year.
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