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So 2002 is the (at least nearterm) end of the F-Body. I think it is completely reasonable to say that people choose a brand loyalty based on what is available. For example.. when the 300ZX was stopped being produced in 1995.. many loyal fans started driving Supras.. etc.. whereas the Supra might have been a rival before..
That being said..
If you had to buy 2003 anything.. and you were the sports car nut that you are... respond with the top 3 cars you would likely buy that are at least comparable in price. Would you buy a Mustang? 3000GT? What I don't think the major impact has set in yet, is that there is truly only one heritage American-Muscle sports car (reasonably priced) that is still available after all this.. the Mustang..
J.R.'s Prediction: The Camaro / Firebird platform may disappear, but the demand for a new market will be so strong, that it will force the rivals such as Dodge, Chrysler, etc to push forward their concepts.. and remember I said this.. there will be a buyer's market again... a market for american made muscle.. and then once that whole process begins to create new muscle excitement.. it will trigger the GM folk to bring the f-body back. We can't all drive a pony can we? NOPE! Think about it.
This is strictly fact.. now.. without that said.. what car will you buy in 2003 that is considered a sports car?
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I'm not going to buy a car in 2003, regardless of whether there is an F-body or not. That having been said .... Of what is out there right now, I'd go for a C5, or an M3. A longshot would be the S2000 ... that thing kicks major butt in AutoX.
We're never supposed to say never, but I would NEVER buy a Ford. I've directed way too much teasing to those that do drive Fords to ever go over to the dark side.
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But look what happened with the Ford Exploder Sport Trac... CHevrolet released the Avalanche shortly thereafter..
Ford Lightning.. isn't there a Chevrolet truck coming out soon with power and muscle?
I just think this loss of the f-body will effect the market enough to spark a new interest... by 2004 we will see some new stuff out there competing against Ford Mustang.
Love, - J.R.
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quote:Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977: Give me the 502 and your NBM and it's a deal.
Ya know DanEh ... I hate to stick my nose into this again ... but 10 years from now, when your ZO6 is worth about 17K and the 502 is worth 60K you'll really be regretting your hardline stance. Just make sure Steve includes the numbers matching drivetrain and a voucher for free installation.
d & r
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The Mustang, which I have driven is just too sssssssssslow. It really needs a performance upgrade. I also don't like the new look, I prefer the 99 much better.
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I will never buy a Mustang, I would buy: ZO6 M5 Viper I know none of these are in the target price range, so I will save my money and keep my SS until I'm ready to buy. Like Dan said, I'd like to restore an older Camaro as well.
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A Z06 would top the "affordable" list...but an 03 Viper would be my dream!!!
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Well, I would have to say that I don't have a brand loyalty. I've been disappointed in GM customer service quality and dealer cooperation and professionalism. I used to, but now I've had too many disappointments.
I ordered my 2002 because it was the best car for the money, that's it. If I didn't have the Camaro as a choice, I would possibly bought a used M3 or waited until I had enough $$$ for a Z06 or new M3. I also would have had to wait for the new M3 to start going for less than sticker - ain't no way I'm paying $15K over sticker!
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Well since the fbody is geared at the 35k market and under what does that leave? Not much, and if you want the best bang for the buck and don't like the mustang what else is there? {thats a serious question BTW}
Would I buy a mustang? Yes, but not the current model I don't like the styling, seats, or the HP output.
Possum, stay out of this!! What are you their agent??
Old Guy, as usual you make perfect sense!! I think that is the way I will go. I have to get a job and build the new garage with a lift first!! Maybe I'll start a car detailing business, I seem to spend enough time doing that!
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quote:Originally posted by J.R. Mayer: If you had to buy 2003 anything.. and you were the sports car nut that you are... respond with the top 3 cars you would likely buy that are at least comparable in price.
1) BMW Z3 2) BMW Z3, or perhaps the 3) BMW Z3
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Well sinse i just bought the 2001 i have no intention of bying new...that being said i would not buy a Mustang...i have never liked them nor do i desire to own one.. In 2003 i will still be driving my 2001 SS I plan on driving it for a LONG time
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With the car payments I'm making right now between my various cars, I could of gotten a Z06, so that'd be my new car choice. However, I think I may add 2000 Camaro SS's great grandad to the fleet: 69 Camaro RS/SS.
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