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Cavy Dan
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Take a look at these pics. looks like part of the intake housing (not the air box lid) has broken. Have any of you seen this happen before, or how if could of happned? THink the warranty will cover this? Although it will probably be a hassle to get it fixed. Oh well. Let me know all your thoughts. Thanks... [Frown]

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I have more pics if you want to see them. [Frown] [Frown]

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Did it happen on it's own or did something happen to break it?
If it broke on it's own, warranty it.

On a side note.....the writing on your radiator cap seems a bit too worn for such a new car.

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Cavy Dan
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This is the first that I noticed it. It must have happened on it's own. I had an accident 6 months ago, but it wasn't becasue of that. No clue. I'm puzzled. [Confused]

I dunno about the cap. The car is an 01 and I will have had the car for one year next week.

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Joey Red
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They should cover it under warranty. Just tell them it was Gino's fault.

[ 10. October 2002, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: Joey Red ]

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Cavy Dan
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Haha, good one. I will make sure I tell them about that Gino. What a character. Soon, the world is going to come to an end, and who else to BLAME!!! [blob]

p.s. like the new graemlins.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joey Red:
They should cover it under warranty. Just tell them it was Gino's fault.

That will work! [Big Grin]
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Broken radiator shroud near the filler cap, extremely worn filler cap, messed up jack, jack and spare not mounted correctly...

That would make me seriously start to doubt it was a new car and would start looking for (other?) signs of major body repair. [eek13]

I think I'd run a Carfax on it to see if it had anything to say. [erm]

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Cavy Dan
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Possible, although I did buy it new with only like 100-200 miles on it. And last spring I did have an accident, but none of these problems shoudl be related in any manor. Could the engine have torqed enough to break that? (my father's suggestion) I really don't run my car that hard. Once in a while i'll spin my tires around a turn (on purpose [Big Grin] ) Oh well... [ugh]
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I can think of nothing normal that would cause that kind of damage. Just out of curiosity, describe your accident and what repairs were performed.
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Cavy Dan
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Yikes..where do I begin with my accident...

Well, what exactly happend was i was cut off in a two lane road, was forced to merge into the right lane and braked hard cause there was a car in front of me in that lane....skidded on cinders on teh road, the car wobbled and I finally lost control and with one jerk, the car did a 180, went up over a curb about 12 inches high somehow landed in a parking lot when I hit 4 cars. The first car it seemed like i landed on TOP of an old honda's hood, and another car i pushed back a grand cherokee 10 feet. After I got out, i was facing the opposite direction and the rear was 1/2 inch away from a telephone pole with tons of cables going up it.

Anyways....the damages....everything was replaced on the drivers side....front and rear quarter panels, entire door, two wheels and tires, and they did a lot of work on the suspension. It sounds worse than it actually is and the car really didn't look bad at all. I did worse to the other cars.

I can tell you one thing. My friend was in the passenger seat and we were probablyl going a good 35 mph, but we both felt real safe. The air bags didn't even deploy, but he were unharmed [Smile] So that's my scary story. To this day I'm haunted by Porsche Carrera's b/c that's what cut me off [Mad]

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I'm willing to bet that damage in the pic was a result of the collision. Was it missed in the repair order when the car was put back together?

I still wonder what's up w/the radiator cap being so worn.

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Cavy Dan
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I'm not sure if that piece was broken yet from the accient. Everytime i was my car (every other week) I clean the dust off fromt eh engine compartment and I swear I never saw that before. And I don't remember it being there the last time I opened up the hood. [confused] And I have no idea about that radiator cap. It's only been a year since i've had the car! [confused]
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Hmmm...

The replacement of the rear quarter panel could easily account for the "displacement" of the spare tire and probably also the jack. Maybe the jack was left out in the rain - or they body shop forgot which one was yours. [confused]

The accident or front quarter panel could possibly account for the radiator shroud damage. The radiator cap is still a little bit of a head scratcher, but I'd be inclined to lump it in with the body work.

I'd think that if the engine torqued around enough to break the shroud - it would have (at least) broken the motor and transmission mounts and probably caused a bunch of other damage.

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Cavy Dan
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The only thing with the spare tire is that it's located on the other side and wasn't touched. when they were repairing the car...at least they shouldn't have.
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Dan, ...when you mentioned accident, I just assumed it was a minor 'fender bender', ...what you've detailed sounds a bit more 'involved'.

If you're car 'jumped a 12" curb, ...I would not be surprised at all that the radiator support recieved 'damage', ...and it may only be appearing now.
As for the jack being loose, ..as another post mentioned, I'd have to believe it got wet at the body shop (either rain or wet sanding) and was never put back in it's correct place.
My guess then would be that these 'issues' are the result of the accident. The fact that you now have the car back (ie repairs have been completed) may make it difficult to have them replaced (paid for) by the body shop/insurance.
Take a (close) look at the repair order for the car, ...check to see if the radiator support was listed as an item to be replaced, ...that never was.

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Cavy Dan
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Actually just the rear driver side wheel jumped the curb. It backed up into all of those cars. There was little or no damage to the front end. I still dont see why the jack would have been taken out or used, or left out, etc. Just still confused, but thank you all!!!

BTW, I'll have to look at the repair order papers when I get home from work tonight. [Smile]

[ 11. October 2002, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: DanPazich ]

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..Dan, ...any 'bouncing around' of the car could have knocked the jack loose, ...OR through disassembly (ie. rear qtr.) it could have been removed.
Also,... the radiator support, ...even if the car did not receive frontal impact, ...it could have been jarred enough (you did mention the front wheel/tire was replaced...??) to stress/break the support to a point where it was weakened.
In any case, best of luck with it. By the way, ...make sure your FANS are not coming close to the radiator since the support is now loose...

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quote:
Originally posted by DanPazich:
The only thing with the spare tire is that it's located on the other side and wasn't touched. when they were repairing the car...at least they shouldn't have.

Oh yes, I see now that the damage was on the other side after re-reading the description of the accident. My bad. [ergh]
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OUCH!

The engine torquing doesn't seem like a likely cause to break the radiator shroud since the radiator is attached to the engine by rubber hoses. My best guess is the body shop removed the shroud to inspect for any damage around the radiator. They may have cracked it and it has just been getting worse lately.

About the jack & spare...it's entirely possible the body shop gutted the entire hatch area to replace the quarter panel. Hopefully they kept your jack and spare pieces straight instead of getting it mixed up. I would suggest finding another SS and comparing. At the very least, you should have a threaded rod that holds the spare to the side.

Good luck with everything.

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Cavy Dan
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There is no threaded screw there at all! ano wingnut even to tighten it! Just sounds fishy...

Also, the jack is not only rusted in spots, it looks like it has been heavily used cause of all the scrape marks on the bottom. I'll take some pics when i get home tonight and post them for you all to take a gander. thanks for your continued opinions and thoughts!

[ 11. October 2002, 01:57 PM: Message edited by: DanPazich ]

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Likewise, I'll try to remember to take some pictures of mine tonight so you can see what it's supposed to look like.
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Cavy Dan
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quote:
Originally posted by OBSSD:
Likewise, I'll try to remember to take some pictures of mine tonight so you can see what it's supposed to look like.

Thanks so much! Such great help [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
I won't hold it against you if you forget, I'll just blame Gino!!! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by DanPazich:
Thanks so much! Such great help [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]
I won't hold it against you if you forget, I'll just blame Gino!!! [Big Grin]

lol...or you could blame Steve & Teri since the reason I may forget is we're all getting together for dinner tonight.
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Cavy Dan
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Nah, I'll still blame Gino. Wish I could join ya all! guess I'll wait for Bowling Green next year hopefully....

btw, i think we're all here just clicking the refresh button hoping someone replies to a post. That's what I'm doing here at work. What else is there to do when the bank is slow and no customers! [eek13]

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Maybe they swapped radiator caps when they were doing the repairs. Sounds like the body shop did not pay a lot of attention to details.
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I would suggest you have Steve Da Wrench have a look...there are few people in that area who know more about Camaros than he does.

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Cavy Dan
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Umm...well..good suggestion, but he lives ont he other side of the world...err..U.S. If i lived in OR, sure I would then. Oh well! [Razz]
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Cavy Dan
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I posted 4 pics to my webshots account. THey are huge pics so you can see the details. It was still bad lighting, and if i get the chance tomorrow i will post more pics. Here's the link:

http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=52221444

If that doesn't work, go to the webshots link in my signature and cxlick on "Car Problems" thanks!!

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Guess what? I remembered [silly]

From the looks of your pictures, I'd say the body shop just tossed your jack and spare around. Either that, or the dealer did before your car was sold. Either is unacceptable. Go raise some hell. This is what it should look like:

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Here's the threaded rod I was telling you about:
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And here's a jack that hasn't been beat to hell:
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Cavy Dan
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Thanks soo much for the pics. I really appreciate it. At the least, I can use thos pics to fall back on if the dealer gives me some kind of bull. And like you said, in any case, it's not acceptable since I never used it. As for the radiator housing, it's thier fault too...either not fixing it from the accident, or should be covered under warranty. I'll probably call my salesperson monday to complain about the jack.

Not sure when I will be able to get my car in the shop to get the other matter fixed. I'm quite busy with school and work and need the car, so I may hold off until i get a free day or two. I'm sure it will 'hold' as I don't know how long it's been there, but I will indeed keep a closer eye on it.

Thanks again OBSSD for the pics, as well as everyone's opinions, comments, concerns, etc! [wolfie]

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No problemo...let us know how it goes.
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