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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

I have received a couple of requests for a GP and would like to see what we can do.

Now, first off.... I need to say that , there isn't much margin in putting together these systems. In fact, I'll likely have to raise the pricing soon. The only reason I share this with you is that I'm going to have a hard time giving much of a discount for the GP.

However, I DO want to get more of the systems out there and hence more word of mouth.

Here's what I'm thinking:

5 Systems = 10% off
10 Systems = 20% off

In doing this, I'd have to work the quantities into the production schedule, so there may be a waiting period.

Once we have the order commitments, I'd need at least 50% deposit (100% is fine too ..) before I commit to the production.

How does this sound?

If you have interest, you can reply here, but please send me an email also.

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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poSSum
AutoXer
Member # 119

posted

Sounds like I should have waited [Big Grin]

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Kevin V 2002 SS
2nd Gear
Member # 1025

posted

I'm in!!! [Big Grin]

I'll have to check to see what the number is for the setup I want.

I have a 2002 and want the ones with the RT hi-flo cats. I still want to be able to keep it "mostly" street legal.

Thanks!!!

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Kevin Villier, 2002 SS #186 - 6M with Hurst and "short-stick", TT, navy blue, chrome SS wheels, Bilstein suspension, SS grill, BMR STB, BMR chrome-moly panhard rod, SLP loudmouth, Direct-Flo lid with Holley Power Shot filter, mallory polished MAF ends, 4.10 gears, PPC LT's.
336 rwhp, 345 rwtq

www.villier.net
Louisville, KY

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

quote:
Originally posted by poSSum:
Sounds like I should have waited

Well... you did wait....and patiently too!

Thanks a bunch !!!

By the way, you have email.

Gordon

[ 11. September 2003, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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KevinA
Dear Sneezy...
Member # 139

posted

I'm in!

You have email.

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John01SS
2nd Gear
Member # 511

posted

Let me double check the finances and OK it with the woman, but I definitely want in on this. I'll know for sure by the end of the weekend.

- John

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

OK, Guys....

At this point we have 5 "OKs", or close to "OK".

I'll send emails to those of you who have said, yes. At which point Y'all can send the deposits (or full)... if we can get 10.... the pricing will be adjusted accordingly.

Thanks for the support! [Wink]

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

[ 13. September 2003, 12:49 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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DaddySS
Old Coot.....50 going on 20
Member # 848

posted

Gordon: The headers and Y pipes look great! I am happy with my system now but if and when I'm in the market for replacement I know where I'll be looking! [Big Grin]

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now.... [Wink]

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KurtK
1st Gear
Member # 1779

posted

Looks nice- I need to have CARB [Roll Eyes]

. How soon?

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

Kurt,

It's impossible for a long tube system to get a CARB certificate due to moving the cats further away from the heads (the original position).

[Frown]

Gordon

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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Kevin V 2002 SS
2nd Gear
Member # 1025

posted

How do you want the deposit payment when the deposit is needed??

Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

[ 13. September 2003, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: Kevin V 2002 SS ]

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DaddySS
Old Coot.....50 going on 20
Member # 848

posted

quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now....

Now that's just plain mean.... [Smile]

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

The deposits can be through PayPal or by check.

The prototyping was done with the SLP bolt-on SFCs, so no problem there.

Gordon

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67&02
2nd Gear
Member # 1570

posted

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???

Nope!

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sscamaro
2nd Gear
Member # 1330

posted

quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
Gee, Daddy........ there's always eBay for that old junk ya got on there now....

Now what kind of person calls another persons car parts JUNK. That does not speak very well of you. How would you like someone calling your headers JUNK?

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DGOETZ
2nd Gear
Member # 1846

posted

quote:
Originally posted by M3EATER:
The deposits can be through PayPal or by check.

The prototyping was done with the SLP bolt-on SFCs, so no problem there.

Gordon

Well if that's the case you know DGoetz Fabrications SFC's will work beautifully

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2002 Camaro SS Hardtop, NBM, 345 HP Dual-Dual, 6-speed w/Hurst, Ebony Leather, 1SD, Traction Control
Mods:
DGOETZ Fabrications - SFC's, STB and Tunnel Brace
SLP - CAGS & Y-Pipe
Hotchkis LCA, Dynamat Extreme, Chevrolet 35th LE front and rear lettering

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DGOETZ
2nd Gear
Member # 1846

posted

quote:
Originally posted by 67&02:

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???
Nope!

Might you have a shot of the driver side from a similiar angle?

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KevinA
Dear Sneezy...
Member # 139

posted

quote:
Originally posted by 67&02:

quote:
Originally posted by Kevin V 2002 SS:
Is there any clearance issues with SLP bolt-on SFC's???
Nope!

what is the ground clearance with the cats?

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67&02
2nd Gear
Member # 1570

posted

quote:
Originally posted by DGOETZ:
Might you have a shot of the driver side from a similiar angle?

I don't, sorry. I was in a rush to drive it after the install!

[ 14. September 2003, 08:17 PM: Message edited by: 67&02 ]

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Travisnd1
2nd Gear
Member # 1982

posted

How much are they?

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

I'll post answers & some photos in a little bit.

Just finished the torque arm install... gotta take a shower... [Wink]

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

Ok, guys... some answers...

First... I hope nobody (including Daddy) was offended by my joking around... that's just me... [Big Grin]

The clearance from the underside of the driver's floor at the longitudinal crossmember (the one that runs under the driver's seat to the trans crossmember mounting area) to the lowest part of the underside of the 3" pipe.. is 4". That's with a 3/4 " clearance from the floor to the pipe.

With a cat... add 1/2" to that measurement.

See the website for details on the parts and pricing, but... the retail prices are:

With Cats: $1549.95
With ORPs: $1249.95

If we have 5 purchases take off 10%
If we have 10 purchases take off 20%

Photos (these shots are on the test car and are of a pre-production y-pipe that has not been coated):

Side shot of driver side y-pipe from side of car.

Under car shot of complete system.

Driver side with SLP SFC

Passenger side with SLP SFC

Y-pipe collector and Flowmaster reducer

[ 15. September 2003, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: M3EATER ]

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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Hawkeye
5th Gear
Member # 88

posted

My order is in! [Big Grin]

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Kevin V 2002 SS
2nd Gear
Member # 1025

posted

Let us know when to send in the deposit. I'll be in Bowling Green at the F-Body Gathering from Wendsday thru Sunday.

How many participants do you have so far and when will be the cutoff date???

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

Thanks for the phone call, Hawkeye!

Kevin (and all)....
Looks like we have at least 5 confirmed, so at this point we're looking at 10% off.

Deposits can be done at any time, by PayPal or by sending a check. My payPal ID is the email address.

info@provenperformanceconcepts.com

I'll make up invoices for each customer as the payments are made.

If we get to 10 systems (I'll wait a bit yet), the pricing will be adjusted accordingly.

Thanks again!

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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Kevin V 2002 SS
2nd Gear
Member # 1025

posted

Gordon, I sent you a deposit via PayPal.

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John01SS
2nd Gear
Member # 511

posted

Has anybody "advertised" this on any other boards??? Let's see if we can't get this to 20% off!!

- john

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KevinA
Dear Sneezy...
Member # 139

posted

I sent a deposit by paypal. [Cool]

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John01SS
2nd Gear
Member # 511

posted

I'll be sending mine in tomorrow. I called Gordon tonight and he was gracious enough to pull off the road and answer all of my questions for over half an hour. I have no doubts about getting these now. At the very least, I know Gordon will do everything he can to make sure we're all happy with his stuff.

- John

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2001 SS #4260
Bright Rally Red - M6 - Neutral Leather - T-Tops - Chrome ZR-1's - Bilstein Suspension

SLP Lid - K&N - Intake Bellows - Bauer Ported TB - TB Bypass
PPC Longtubes - Random Tech Cats - Borla Catback
SLP Bolt-on SFC - BMR Panhard Rod & LCA's - Hotchkis STB

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

Awwww shucks...... [Embarrassed]

Thanks, John

We have 4 confirmed deposits counting John's

Feel free to talk to your buddies on other boards or whatever... I'd just as well see 10 sets for the GP ... as you guys would , the 20% discount!

Continued thanks!

Gordon
www.provenperformanceconcepts.com

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Gordon Arnold, Proven Performance Concepts, New Hampshire, 2000 WS6 T/A, A4 converted to M6, PPC Long Tube Headers, Minor Engine Bolt-ons, lots of suspension & brakes mods, PPC Test Vehicle, Hobby Road Racer & Daily Driver.

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Hawkeye
5th Gear
Member # 88

posted

You should be hearing from Rock today. I spoke
to him yesterday and I think he's a go! [Big Grin]

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98

1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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Happy_Dan
Forum Moderator
Member # 118

posted

Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

[ 16. September 2003, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: DanA_F99_1977 ]

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M3EATER
1st Gear
Member # 1731

posted

quote:
Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977:
Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

Very good Dan..... do you take PayPal ... [Big Grin]

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Jim Mac
Chocoholic Instigator
Member # 113

posted

quote:
Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977:
Gordon is awesome and his customer service is the best! I have had the pleasure of having him over the house. If you want headers, get them through Gordon. You will be happy

Suckup!

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Jim Mac
'98 Silver SS #108

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BadRag
2nd Gear
Member # 1566

posted

Do you have them for the LT1? and will they take the sims....this is the only way i know of to get around the Ca. c.a.r.b. issue....

Thanks, BadRag

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Low, Loud, Fast & Black

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KevinA
Dear Sneezy...
Member # 139

posted

^

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Kevin V 2002 SS
2nd Gear
Member # 1025

posted

Gordon, what is the status on the GP orders, any idea yet???

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Hawkeye
5th Gear
Member # 88

posted

Rock sent his paypal yesterday - so we should
be good to go soon! [Smile]