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Kevin V 2002 SS
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I'm considering starting to buy the parts to do heads and cam after I install the PPC headers. I'd appreciate any info and recommendations about parts, suppliers, performance, tuning, etc.

Thanks!!!

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Kevin Villier, 2002 SS #186 - 6M with Hurst and "short-stick", TT, navy blue, chrome SS wheels, Bilstein suspension, SS grill, BMR STB, BMR chrome-moly panhard rod, SLP loudmouth, Direct-Flo lid with Holley Power Shot filter, mallory polished MAF ends, 4.10 gears, PPC LT's.
336 rwhp, 345 rwtq

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Louisville, KY

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Steve da Wrench
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I went with the MTI stage 2 heads, and the LPE GT1 cam, and am very happy with them. For the tuning, use LS1 edit, but you will need to take it to someone who is familiar with tuning to get that done.

Good luck, and keep us posted! [Smile]

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The "other" owner of '99 SS #69


McGee's Auto Service, an SLP AutoGroup/Perf. Parts Installer.


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Hawkeye
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GMMG - Stage 3 LS6 - only $27,000 - [Wink]

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Hawkeye: SSOA F98-C98
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1998 SS - Black All Options - Mods
Whisper Lid, K & N, Lou's Short Stick, Shift Light, Skip Shift, SLP Y, Borla, 4:10's, BMR STB, SLP SFCs, Granatelli MAF, Hypertech III, 160 Stat, Mallory Billet Pedals, Metco Aluminum LCAs,Fast Toys Ram Air Mod, Spohn Panhard Bar, BMR Torque Arm, free EGR mod,power antenna, BMR LCA brackets, Gentex Temp/Compass Auto Dim Mirror, AllMaxx Strobe and Wig Wag, BAER Eradispeed rotors,PPC Headers with Random Technology Hi Flow Cats, BMR Drive shaft Loop,FAST 78MM Throttle Body, FAST 78MM Composite Intake, Mobil 1 & lots of Zaino.

Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot.

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CK-1 99SS
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I went with Stage 2 6.0l heads from Total Engine Airflow and Thunder Racing TR224 cam. This seems to be a good combo and you will have the LS6 intake and headers so that will also help..

For tuning I used Diablo Sport Predator and let someone else write custom tunes for my car..

I guess for choosing which heads and cam to buy you have to ask yourself the question of how you intend to use that power and where do you want your power band... then you can decide which cam specs you want...

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Curtis Knops
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Stage II milled 6.0L heads
Thunder Racing TR224 Cam
LS6 Intake
Jet Hot LT headers, no cats
Magnaflow Exhaust
12.4@116.4mph on BFG G-force KD's
6spd, stock rear... [Smile]
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chrisL
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There are alot of good shops country wide.

Right now Cartek in NJ is running the fastest N/A C5s. They have four Z06s in the 10s running their stage 2x pkg. [Cool]

[ 14. October 2003, 04:51 PM: Message edited by: chrisL ]

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00 Hawk 295 - NBM, Hurst, Bilstein, Auburn, SLP spoiler, Chrome, Syntec, Lou's Short Stick, SLP OE lid, SLP !CAGS, BMR STB

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Elie Garfinkel
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quote:
Originally posted by CK-1 99SS:

I guess for choosing which heads and cam to buy you have to ask yourself the question of how you intend to use that power and where do you want your power band... then you can decide which cam specs you want...

Kevin:
Curtis has asked the $64,000 question, and I believe that he has hit the nail on the head, IMHO. Everybody and their mother will give you a glowing recommendation based on their own combo, probably without specifying how it is used, what their expectations were and whether or not the combo lived up to those expectations in day-to-day driving.
That being said, here are a few questions I would be asking myself if I were in your position:
1)Will I continue to drive the car on a daily basis, or do I want to use the car as a "track-only" vehicle?
2)Is having the ability to drive my car comfortably on the street, after the heads & cam pkg. has been installed, a definite priority?
2)Does Kentucky have a regularly scheduled program for "Vehicles Emissions Testing"? If so, you're gonna have to deal with the question of whether or not to run cats.
3)How do you use your car? (street, strip, road course, autoX)
To quote Curtis, once again, where do you want the power to be produced? Up high or down low?
4)You have 4.10s. This could be an issue because I'm guessing that should your goal be in the area of 400 RWHP, you're gonna want to back down to 3.73s (or get a Moser 12 bolt!)
4.10s could pose a huge problem with a stock 10 bolt at that power level.
Here is my scenario - take it for what you feel it's worth:
- a very modest head porting job and a mild cam - 369 RWHP and the car is a complete joy to drive on the street - with 4.10s (yes, I drag race the car, but I DO NOT run a tire!!)
The bottom line is that the power band is set up for a road course application. The motor continues to make horsepower right up to 6500 rpm, in contrast to a stock LS1, which tends to fall off at 5300-5400 rpm. I have 346 lb-ft torque. No big deal, but with the 4.10s... how much more could I possibly make use of?!?
Please try to find someone who will talk to you about your requirements. That person needs to listen to you, rather than tell you what you need.
I was fortunate enough to have been able to go thru this process with Agostino Racing Engines in Pickering, ON. I'm sure there are other tuners who can work with you on this basis - again, please verify that they have the ability to do a custom tune on your PCM, once all your mods have been done>
Good luck and have a ton of fun with achieving your goals!!

Best regardSS,

Elie

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Kevin V 2002 SS
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I know a few people who have done cams and also a few with heads. I'm trying to get as much input from people as possible to help me decide.

It will still be driven on the street.

I also have LS1 Edit to do the tuning with.

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