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SSHEETS
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I want to know how you did it... I'd like to make that my target on an 02 SS with the base 345net package with SLP LTs...I think I've got about $2,500+ o play with so let me know if it's possible?

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02 SS
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345hp CME package
SLP LT headers
SLP high flow cats
Chrome ZR1s
SLP STB
DG SFCs
DG Tunnel Brace
328.4RWHP/349.5TQ

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Avengeance Z4C
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Im at 344rwhp/353rwtq with just LS1 edit tuning. I have the 345hp/350tq SLP options. My goal is also 400rwhp.

Im going to try the following:

-TSP LID
-Smooth Bellow
-GM Hot Cam
-Jet Hot Long Tube headers
-Jet Hot ORY
-Cut Out
-More LS1 Edit Tuning

I may try a ASP pulley too.. if need be. I believe good dyno tuning is key, though.

I should be able to get it without the pulley. [Cool]

BTW.. Good Luck!

[ 13. November 2003, 02:39 AM: Message edited by: Avengeance Z4C ]

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White Lightning
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You need more than a Hotcam and long tubes to get 400rwhp.

I have seen a ton of different combinations and you need ported heads and a cam to get 400rwhp.

For $2500 I would get a stage 2 ported head and pretty healthy cam.

Rob

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Robert
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Travisnd1
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I'm putting down 330rwhp with just lid and LM. So to get 400, I would need, LT's, head and cam?

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Add Patriot Stage 2 heads and a TH224/112 cam. The heads are very inexpensive, good quality and require no core. I highly recommend dyno tuning with LS1 edit to clean it all up. You'll be well over 400 rwhp with that and should be able to do it with 3K.

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Xsta Z 28
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I am! [Smile] . Need heads or a blast of NOS. $2,500 more than likely will not get you there.
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Travisnd1
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When I get to 400, i want it to be all motor, no gas. SO i need to start looking at heads, cam, and longtubes!

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Travis
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save your $$$ so you can build the motor you really want from the start... instead of incremental steps .. may take loger to raise the moolah, but it sure beats repeating the same things 5-6 times to finally figure this out you'd been better off.
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Get an LT1 [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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SSHEETS
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I don't need to make 400rwhp, but I'm using it as the benchmark. I will be happy with anything above 380rwhp. I'm told (by everyone that sells a cam package) that this isn't too difficult on an 02 LS1 running headers, good exahust system or cutouts, 224/224 or greater cam, 25% pullys and good intake with possibly aftermarket or worked TB.

Of course salesmen are always optimistic, so I'd like to hear what the real world results have been.

I plan on spending $2,500 - $3,000, but this will also include a gear swap to 3.73s or 4.10s. and a Preditor programmer. Some have said I would need LS1edit to properly tune...can somebody explain the advantage LS1edit has over Preditor?

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02 SS
Bilstein susp
345hp CME package
SLP LT headers
SLP high flow cats
Chrome ZR1s
SLP STB
DG SFCs
DG Tunnel Brace
328.4RWHP/349.5TQ

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Brian's 01 SS
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quote:
Originally posted by SSHEETS:
I don't need to make 400rwhp, but I'm using it as the benchmark. I will be happy with anything above 380rwhp. I'm told (by everyone that sells a cam package) that this isn't too difficult on an 02 LS1 running headers, good exahust system or cutouts, 224/224 or greater cam, 25% pullys and good intake with possibly aftermarket or worked TB.

Of course salesmen are always optimistic, so I'd like to hear what the real world results have been.

I plan on spending $2,500 - $3,000, but this will also include a gear swap to 3.73s or 4.10s. and a Preditor programmer. Some have said I would need LS1edit to properly tune...can somebody explain the advantage LS1edit has over Preditor?

I wouldn't go bigger than a 224 unless you do heads and tuning. I went with a tr224/114lsa for better idle and drivability and with the computer not touched, I turned 386-390 at the wheels. Tuning and a ported throttle body will get me 400 at the wheels. All I need. [Razz]

But since tuning is $500 plus, I have been diving it without a tune for the summer and never had a problem. Except, the rev limiter seems lower now. The motor revs so fast [Eek!] . And the ses light pops up if I let it idle to long. Those can be fixed with a tune, but hp can be added also as well as even better drivabilty. Plan on tuning this winter.

I also did the swap myself without any problems. Much easier than my TTS header swap.

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Brian

2001 red SS Convertible
#5479 out of 6332
CME, Grill, Chrome 10 spoke, Dash plaque, Cover
Absolute Speed 5.3L stg. 2 heads, comp 978 dual springs, ti retainers, AS ported ls6 intake, AS ported 78mm TB, TR224/.564 114lsa, TTS headers,gmmg exhaust,and more....
409/382 rwhp/rwtq tuned

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NATESS
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quote:
Originally posted by SSHEETS:
I don't need to make 400rwhp, but I'm using it as the benchmark. I will be happy with anything above 380rwhp. I'm told (by everyone that sells a cam package) that this isn't too difficult on an 02 LS1 running headers, good exahust system or cutouts, 224/224 or greater cam, 25% pullys and good intake with possibly aftermarket or worked TB.

Of course salesmen are always optimistic, so I'd like to hear what the real world results have been.

I plan on spending $2,500 - $3,000, but this will also include a gear swap to 3.73s or 4.10s. and a Preditor programmer. Some have said I would need LS1edit to properly tune...can somebody explain the advantage LS1edit has over Preditor?

with most hand held programmers such as the preditor and hypertech and the like, you are limited on what you can do. with LS1 edit, you have many more options and can fine tune it better. i dont know everything about LS1 edit, but Steve da wrench could explain it better.
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96ss1664
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These guys have a good 400+ rwhp kit I think its selling for 2500. Give them a call. http://www.ls1speed.com/

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Raven
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I spent 7000.00 for heads, headers, loudmouth pipes, Cam Rockers and pushrods. All done by SLP 500hp 449tq Rwhp 409....and it goes [Big Grin]

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99PewterSS
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I have a question for those of you swapping cams, heads, etc and generating that kind of hp/tq: are your cars subject to any kind of emissions test?

Every now and then I get wild ideas about doing the same kind of mods to my SS. However, where I live, my car has to pass an emissions test. I'd hate to do the work to my car, then not be able to get tags for it because it flunked emissions. Any comments?

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Randy V.
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SSHEETS
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quote:
Originally posted by Raven:
I spent 7000.00 for heads, headers, loudmouth pipes, Cam Rockers and pushrods. All done by SLP 500hp 449tq Rwhp 409....and it goes [Big Grin]

Are those rear wheel numbers are flywheel?

As for emissions...no, I don't testing or certification where I life. So, bring on the HORSEPOWER and let the Cobras fade away in the rear view mirror [Big Grin]

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02 SS
Bilstein susp
345hp CME package
SLP LT headers
SLP high flow cats
Chrome ZR1s
SLP STB
DG SFCs
DG Tunnel Brace
328.4RWHP/349.5TQ

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01SunsetOrangeSS
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A simple LS6 head and cam swap will get you very close to 400 RWHP with your LT's and tuning. You might want to think about beefing up the internals, especially the rods with LS6 parts. I just reciently did the head and cam swap with full LS6 internals and pulled 378 RWHP without headers or a retune. Total cost $2300 (my labor), GM warrantee on the LS6 parts and all.

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gauSSian
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quote:
Originally posted by SSHEETS:
I want to know how you did it... I'd like to make that my target on an 02 SS with the base 345net package with SLP LTs...I think I've got about $2,500+ o play with so let me know if it's possible?

Here's how I did it:

SLP SFCs, SLP STB, SLP reinforced Panhard Bar, SLP 85 mm MAF, 485 hp LS1 Cylinder Head & Cam (234/228) Package w/inst. kit including chrome molly pushrods 7.350" set of 16, double row nitrated timing chain, blueprinted oil pump LS1/LS6, off-road LT headers w/inst. kit, set of 2 high flow cats, LM exhaust mated to CME, K&N Air Filter, CAI, smooth bellows, moser 12-bolt 3.73 rear TCS & ABS 47 tooth w/inst. kit, torque converter 3300-3500, driveshaft loop, high capacity radiator, 160 deg. thermo. w/housing, painted reinforced LCA's, heavy duty adj. torque arm, dyno-based PCM4 tuning

dynoed before the install at Toms River:

rwhp: 314.2 fwhp: 371.9
rwtq: 320.4 fwtq: 378.5

after:

rwhp: 407.3 fwhp: 489.5
rwtq: 356.8 fwtq: 428.2

I did spend a bit more than $2,500 though. [Embarrassed]

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