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hey Dan, very nice daily driver. as far as foreign trucks go, i really like the Nissan Titan. good pick Dan. hope you like it Posts: 1579 | From: Portland, OR. | Registered: May 2001
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Best of luck with the new vehicle. I really mean that, despite the rant below.
I've been biting my lip, but I can't hold back any longer. No Japanese badged vehicle is built in North America, they are ASSEMBLED here. The employment opportunities by foreign makers in the USA is completely lopsided vs. their sales, when compared to the domestics. Make no mistake, GM is STILL the largest private employer in this country, that is one of the major reasons I will continue to support them, not to mention the fact that their quality is second to none. My wife, prior to listening to me, owned Hondas and Nissans. They were not God's gift to the automotive industry by any stretch. Hands down, my Chevy's blew them away in terms of reliability and cost. I pampered her cars as I do my own. Maybe I am an anomaly, but I'm sick of Consumer Reports dragging the resale value of my domestic vehicles through the mud. They told me my old '86 F-body was garbage when I bought it new and every year for five years thereafter in terms of resale... I sold it last year after 17 years with 198k on the odometer and a peeling paint job for 10% of the purchase price new. That car never had a problem, despite getting the crap beat out of it regularly.
Besides, Nissan is owned by the FRENCH! Is that what I want to support??
And my Toyota/Honda/Nissan friends tell me that GM/Ford/Chrysler are assembling more and more cars overseas, so what's the point? My answer: What do you expect them to do? You are telling them to do so.
The question I ask myself is simple: If I don't buy domestic and support the economy that supports me, then who will?
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Have You Forgotten How You Felt That Day? Never Forget 9/11/01. Posts: 184 | From: Harleysville, Pennsylvania | Registered: May 2000
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Do you mean 10% of the new price or 10% off the new price? I.E. if the car new was $5,000 did you sell for $500 or $4,500?
Just curious. Not trying to flame at all.
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Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot. Posts: 5558 | From: Windsor, Ontario. Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Hawkeye: Do you mean 10% of the new price or 10% off the new price? I.E. if the car new was $5,000 did you sell for $500 or $4,500?
Just curious. Not trying to flame at all.
He sold it for 10% of the Purchase Price. So in your example it would $500 bucks.
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Right, actually, you made me think... I sold it for a little less than 9% of the purchase price. New PP = $12,500 (incl. tax, tags) in May 1986, and sold it last October for $1,100 cash. Actully, a bidding war between two 18 year olds broke out (the perfect demographic for that car), but I kaboshed it and respected the first offer that met my asking price 0f $1,100, despite being offered $1,300 by the second offerer. That was a great car, and unless he wraps it around a telephone pole, will probably serve him well for another 100,000 miles. It was a good deal for both of us, since that car owed me nothing, and then some.
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Have You Forgotten How You Felt That Day? Never Forget 9/11/01. Posts: 184 | From: Harleysville, Pennsylvania | Registered: May 2000
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Dan, sorry that this thread has been completely hijacked!
quote:Originally posted by Harry P: Besides, Nissan is owned by the FRENCH! Is that what I want to support??
That's not entirely correct - Renault and Nissan own a joint venture together as well as owning stock in each others' companies. But they aren't truly French-owned.
quote:The question I ask myself is simple: If I don't buy domestic and support the economy that supports me, then who will?
It's a little more complicated than that. The economy now, especially in the auto industry, is very much global. "Foreign" cars are made by GM and Ford. So if I buy a Jaguar aren't I supporting a domestic company even though the workers that built it weren't Americans? The same goes for our Camaros and Firebirds. They weren't made by Americans but buying them supported GM, an American company. And vice versa for the foreign cars assembled here. You might be supporting a foreign company if you buy their cars, but that company provides jobs to Americans here in the US, and therefore you are also helping the economy here in the US. As I said, it's obviously a lot more complicated that the simple "buy American" slogans that came about years ago.
When it comes to buying cars, I say buy what suits your needs. If a foreign car fits your needs, then go for it. It really doesn't make a lot of sense to dismiss something that can be very useful to you just because it isn't made in the USA. While patriotism is admirable, it unfortunately doesn't always fit logically with the global economy of today.
Whoever said you couldn't run away from your problems obviously wasn't driving an SS. Posts: 942 | From: Santa Barbara and Ventura, CA | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by DanA_F99_1977: No problem, good discussion!
Not really hijacked so much.
Hey I'm in Naples, FLA, anyone around here?
Hey - you kept that a secret! Where's Grace?
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Wife & Best Friend Mary - copilot. Posts: 5558 | From: Windsor, Ontario. Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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Grace and Dani are here with me. Grace's mom has a place in Naples. They kidnapped me. It's too warm here. Posts: 5946 | From: Litchfield, NH, USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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Grace and Dani are here with me. Grace's mom has a place in Naples. They kidnapped me. It's too warm here.
Can I borrow your truck? You know for perhaps the next 4 or 5 years? I promise that as long as you make the payments and insurance on it. I will take good care of it.
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