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I went to the new house last night to look at the damage. It is not as bad as I was thinking. Looks like several sections of drywall will need to be replaced and the carpet,vynyl flooring and all of the base board moldings and door and window moldings and then repainted. There is still several high volumn fans and 2 huge dehumidifiers running 24/7.
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Not to beat a dead horse (or molest one like Git and/or Dragan does), but have you talked to a lawyer yet?
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Greg...SERIOUSLY...I would think twice about moving into that house...that REALLY looks extensive!
Talked to my real estate prof/lawyer. He said for YOU to get YOUR own inspector...see if its 100% fixable (which, by looking at the pics, its going to be hard to get the house back to 100%). He said if it was him, in all seriousness, he would walk away from it. You should NOT have to go through this!! If you cannot redeem 100% of what you put down on the house and other expenses, take legal action!
Really sorry to hear about the whole mess. I'd be heart broken, but i know there will be better opportunities in the future for ya'll. Good luck, adn keep us informed. We'll all help in any way we can! Posts: 2651 | From: Enola (Harrisburg Area), Pennsylvania | Registered: Jan 2002
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Hawkeye had a very valid point. That being what if the house caught on fire. How would they put the fire out? More than likely the house would then be flooded with water. Many homes have had a fire or water damage are repaired and are as good as new.
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quote:Originally posted by Cavy Dan: Greg...SERIOUSLY...I would think twice about moving into that house...that REALLY looks extensive!
Talked to my real estate prof/lawyer. He said for YOU to get YOUR own inspector...see if its 100% fixable (which, by looking at the pics, its going to be hard to get the house back to 100%). He said if it was him, in all seriousness, he would walk away from it. You should NOT have to go through this!! If you cannot redeem 100% of what you put down on the house and other expenses, take legal action!
Really sorry to hear about the whole mess. I'd be heart broken, but i know there will be better opportunities in the future for ya'll. Good luck, adn keep us informed. We'll all help in any way we can!
Ditto!! Again from someone who is still going through a situation that has some resemblance to yours; there is no way in hell I would put myself or my family through this again. It may be a royal pain in the ass to back out now but you will not regret it in the end. Also, I would suggest consulting with a lawyer. There is no way they can legally keep your down payment and can face legal ramifications if they attempt to.
One last thing, houses that have damages such as yours are called "stigmatized" and the research shows that it results in 20% depreciation in value simply for having the "stigma".
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I think you are all reacting to quickly. I guess you have two choices:
1 - walk away, they cannot hold your earnest money.
2 - have it repaired - by a Flood Specialist.
Now lets look at it another way. Does it look bad? Yes. Is it fixable. YES. Think about it, when a house is being framed does it ever rain? So the framing and sub floor does get wet during construction - it ALWAYS does (I'm in construction). So the water really is not a huge deal.
Now what they should do, is, remove all drywall and finishes that got wet down to studs. They need to stop trying to dick around with saving the walls. They need to be demo'd to the framing. These "holes" are useless. Then turn on the heater to about 90* and "bake" the house. That will find any and all problem areas. Then re-drywall and "bake" the house again. Replace all ruined trim, replace damaged floors, the carpet could be cleaned and restretched or replaced. The fact that ther framing and sub floor got wet is no big deal.
There are many companies that specialise in remediation of flood and fire damage, this is tramatizing on a brand new house that you want, but there could be a good side here. It gives you a negotiation chip, and the opportunity to get some of these damage floor surfaces either left out completely for your future choice, or upgraded to colors/quality you want.
Any and all house purchases should be inspected by the home buyer with an inspector of your choice. And since this is a brand new house right? There should be a warrantee.
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I would walk unless every piece of drywall and insulation that has seen water is removed to allow the the framing to dry properly, and the framing should be treated to ensure it won't support the growth of mold in the future.
I'd be of the opinion the toilet was flushed before it flooded.
Hawkeye is right, to a degree, but houses that have fires or floods are stripped back much further before repairs start.
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quote:Originally posted by Xsta Z 28: I think you are all reacting to quickly. I guess you have two choices:
1 - walk away, they cannot hold your earnest money.
2 - have it repaired - by a Flood Specialist.
Now lets look at it another way. Does it look bad? Yes. Is it fixable. YES. Think about it, when a house is being framed does it ever rain? So the framing and sub floor does get wet during construction - it ALWAYS does (I'm in construction). So the water really is not a huge deal.
Now what they should do, is, remove all drywall and finishes that got wet down to studs. They need to stop trying to dick around with saving the walls. They need to be demo'd to the framing. These "holes" are useless. Then turn on the heater to about 90* and "bake" the house. That will find any and all problem areas. Then re-drywall and "bake" the house again. Replace all ruined trim, replace damaged floors, the carpet could be cleaned and restretched or replaced. The fact that ther framing and sub floor got wet is no big deal.
There are many companies that specialise in remediation of flood and fire damage, this is tramatizing on a brand new house that you want, but there could be a good side here. It gives you a negotiation chip, and the opportunity to get some of these damage floor surfaces either left out completely for your future choice, or upgraded to colors/quality you want.
Any and all house purchases should be inspected by the home buyer with an inspector of your choice. And since this is a brand new house right? There should be a warrantee.
While it IS fixable there are a couple of very important factors to consider:
1.) You don't have any control on how they choose to fix it. In other words they can do things the expensive proper way or they can do the cheap fix. Even with a good inspector, there are many things that can be covered up if they want to. Given the fact that they were not up front and honest when this happened, I would not expect them to be fixing it the proper and expensive way. There is no reason why you should have to take the risk of not having problems later on down the line. 2.) When you decide to sell the house you will have to disclose all of this. As I said earlier in this thread, you are going to take an approx 20% hit in value.
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Greg, I would walk. Why have to bother with it at all or even have to worry about it all. There are other houses and I am sure that you will find what is right for you!
Things happen for a reason. I say it all the time. This happened for a reason!
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Ahhh, Fire damage~~~When a home is damaged by fire, sometimes it is repaired and sometimes it is not. Most of the time the owner doesn't have a choice in the matter, but you do! The building materials used in todays homes are less water friendly than in older homes ( gusset plates, Pressed board, and so on ). I would either walk away or make sure the repairs are done by a trained professional in this type of damage. My 2 cents
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