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quote:Originally posted by TimeLord: I have them on the car now,can't tell any difference on the dry in city driving or in violent lane change scenarios.
They are announcing rain tomorrow and I will try them out then,so far I am VERY pleasantly surprised!!!
They seem to ride a little more softly than the SZ's.
Will let you know more when I get out tomorrow!!!!!
Good news so far with the Fuzions! Let us know if you manage to get these suckers out on the track. AFAIC, this is the acid test of a street tire ( AND it has to inspire confidence in wet conditions! (can you spell SZ50 EP?!?) In any event, I'm gonna repost my observations on my Goodyear F1 GS-D3s from a previous post after a lapping day last week... with a couple of addendums... "The F1 GS-D3 tires are an acceptable replacement for the SZ50 EPs. I realized that max. inflatable pressure on these tires is 51 psi (as opposed to the SZ50 EP's max rating of 44lbs) There's a reason... the sidewalls on the Goodyears are like mush! I ended up running these things at their max (over 50 lbs. hot in the front) in order to minimize excessive rollover. They also screamed like hell around the fast corners and have a totally different feel (nowhere near as communicative or as connected) than the SZ50 EPs. The SZ50 EP is a superior tire, but given the great wet weather performance of these Goodyears, I am prepared to accept the small amount of compromise with these tires on the track. In all fairness, they wore pretty well today - the SZ50 EP probably would have exhibited more wear. As well, I will now run these on the street at 40 psi front and 38 in the rear. This greatly improves the tire's responsiveness with little or no compromise in ride quality and besides - it's more like what I'm used to!" Since then, I've decided to drop the pressuresa couple of lbs. all round - just to compare. 38 - 36 might work too. I still need to experience these tires on the highway in a rainstorm. In a light rain (with greasy road conditions), I have absolutely no criticisms of these tires! I would like the opportunity to assess their resistance to aquaplaning. Too bad it takes almost 1000 KM. to assess a tire's abilities!
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Thanks for the update. Keep us posted. Both of you push a tire past the limits that most drivers do.
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I got my 245/50/16 yesterday,and one of my friends is waiting for his 275/40/17,so the sizes appear to be available.
For how long is the question because the tire shop I use said they are selling way better than anticipated and my REP is extatic about sales. I have a feeling that they may run low on popular sizes as summer approaches.
On a side note about the tire,as stated above I said it rode softer than the SZ and the sidewall [like ELIE's D3s]appears less rigid than the SZ.
I haven't gotten much really spirited driving in yet but going over curbs I can feel the tire complying a lot more than the SZ did.I will try upping the air pressure like Elie did to the 40 psi range,I feel that the tire will become more responsive.
The side of the tire looks about the same as the SZ but it doesn't appear to have the hoop or bumper to absorb shocks like the SZ had.Maybe it was deleted due to softer sidewalls.
This may be due in part to wanting to sell to the TUNER set that run practically no sidewall on HUGE wheels.
Will let you know tonight about the wet handling and the pressure increase!!
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Hey, could someone hand me a fire extinguisher?
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They ARE better than the SZ50 in the rain,from drizzle this morning to huge downpour this afternoon.
They handle standing water better with less hydroplaning than the Firestones.I didn't think it was possible but these outperform the SZ on wet roads,very confidence inspiring.
Didn't have time to play with pressure yet,,,,
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quote:Originally posted by TimeLord: They handle standing water better with less hydroplaning than the Firestones.I didn't think it was possible but these outperform the SZ on wet roads,very confidence inspiring.
Are they the same size as the SZ's you're comparing them to or were the Firestone's 275's?
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Same exact size,I find it hard to believe myself.
I am just back from taking my Firestone rep's son for a spin.
He was amazed and I even surprised myself in certain curves.
Took and off ramp at way too high a rate of speed compressed to slow even more and threw the car HARD 90 degrees to make the turn,it stuck like glue and the road was wet.
From a roll in 2nd at 30mph nailed it and it BIT,no spin what soever on slick road.
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Thanks for the update. Keep us posted. Both of you push a tire past the limits that most drivers do.
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