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Man, XBCHBUM from the F-Body Hideout turned me onto this forum and I'm loving it!
Everyone knows that verts are the heaviest cars out there and I just wanted to get a feel for what we are all running at the track. We have a big disadvantage due to our weight, but there are a few of us out there that tend to show that verts aren't as slow as many may think....like George Baxter. Low 9 seconds.....what the hell is that all about?
So, lets see em....what's your best 1/4 mile and MPH?
My best weighing in at 4,300 lbs NA was:
12.782 @ 103.91
But this will soon change once I get back out on the track since I've lightened the load significantly and installed the 150HP N2O.
quote:Originally posted by Gonzo: We have a big disadvantage due to our weight, but there are a few of us out there that tend to show that verts aren't as slow as many may think
My understanding is that the 4th gen convertibles weigh about 85lbs more than the coupes. So that would make us somewhere around a tenth or less slower ar the track. Not much.
quote:My best weighing in at 4,300 lbs NA was: 12.782 @ 103.91
Yikes - 4300 lbs??? Waddya got in there? Mine's 3700 lbs, with roll bar, nitrous bottle, and most of the stock interior, etc (without me in it). Interesting time you've got, by the way. Killer ET for your MPH.
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Dave, actually....I went off of what GM Customer Support had told me. I called them about a week ago just to find out how much our cars weighed right off of the show room floor. She had to call archives to dig into the 1997 Z28 ragtops. She said that the Gross Vehicle Weight of our cars was weighed in at 4,358 lbs. That is the official weight with all fluids topped off and with two occupants of average weight. 4,358 lbs. So, I figured that with all that I have on the car....I'm somewhere around 4,300. I will get my Z weighed in the next time at the track. That's an ugly weight....
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I weighed mine at SLP day in NJ. I was about 3750 lbs with me in it (but not much gas). Anyway, my best time so far has been 13.49@105.67mph. The is with chamberred exhaust, whisper lid, maf ends and throttle body. We'll see how I do with the new gears next time.
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My best time was 13.972 @ 99.xx mph. The car was totally stock and had 350 miles on it. I believe it weighed 3675 lbs.
Leonard
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There is 0% zippy chance that your car weighs anywhere NEAR what you are thinking man, 4300 pounds? Who told you that joke?
My '94 convertible Trans-Am weighs precisely 3590 lbs empty (as measured by digital scales at Memphis Motorsports Park) and 3775 with me in it. I weigh 185 pounds so it's accurate, go figure.
Get your hoopdy on the scales next time you're at the track dude, seriously. I think you'll find that your E.T.'s are not down because of the weight, more likely because of the cam you selected.
Don't worry though it will wake up on the kit! DTB SCRD to spray the heck out of it dude!
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There is 0% zippy chance that your car weighs anywhere NEAR what you are thinking man, 4300 pounds? Who told you that joke?
See my earlier post on where I got that figure. I got it from GM's Customer Service....they called the Archives to get the data for me, but true, I won't know for sure until I get it on the scales. I should be able to hit MIR next Saturday.
quote:Originally posted by Gonzo: She said that the Gross Vehicle Weight of our cars was weighed in at 4,358 lbs.
FYI, Gross Vehicle Weight (GVWR) is the total maximum weight acceptable for the vehicle. It makes more sense in a truck, where you want to know the total weight of the truck, the people in it, the payload in the bed, etc. So in your car, it's just a figure that says how much crap you can put in it, and isn't really helpful for telling what the actual car weighs.
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You'll probably need to get with Jason Miller in advance to setup use of the scales at MIR, they are normally turned off for Midnight Madness and TnT events. Email him directly in advance or just goto the local dump and run your car up on the scales there, it's free and accurate within 5 pounds. The only hazzard of the dump is the possibility of picking up a nail in a tire though.
Maybe I will see you at the track.
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Glad you made it over Gonzo! I heard on the SLP board to determine curb weight take the GVW from the door sticker and subtract 750 lbs. GM allows 150 lbs each for four passengers and cargo. This will give the curb weight of the car with all fluids. Each car will vary depending on options.
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My basic mods list is SLP LTs w/o cats, 3.5" collector mod into 3.5" intermediate pipe and a 3.5" cutout, MTI lid & K&N, FRA, HPP3 non-rfg tuning, 160F thermo, MAFT for NA tuning.
My current best with a 1.95 sixty is 12.87 @ 111.92. With that MPH I should be in the 12.5s but I need to go on a diet (the car) and work on my launch.
Working on a dry NOS setup so that should put me in the mid 11s at near 120-122mph! Also looking to do a cam swap and an LS6 intake in the near future.
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-------------------- Later Craig
99 SS 950 Conv 12.87 @ 111.92 (w/17s & no CAM!) 3715# Raceweight 345rwhp 361rwtq
-------------------- 99 hugger orange Z28 convt. has white top white leather power eveything 3:23.1 hp rear possi slp lid slp high gloss grill crome wheels automatic 13:66 @ 102.89 1/4 best before slp lid runs 13:7's cons. this car is for sale!! Posts: 7 | From: Grand Rapids, MI | Registered: Jul 2001
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The only two passes I have ever made in the car were when it was bone stock, and I had the pleasure of making those two passes at the "Teflon track testing grounds" known as Carlsbad. My 60' was 2.4 LOL, of course, on the stock F1's.
I have Nitto's on the back now and have done quite a few mods (recently dyno'd at 301 RWHP/314 RWTQ). Keep in mind these are A4 numbers so that puts me at about 360hp at the crank.
I need to go back out and cut a low 13 second run, my sig is getting embarrasing !
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I posted in another thread that I raced last weekend at Maple Grove. I weighed the car twice. My 98 vert RA weighs approx 3600 lbs, not 4200. The 60 ft was 2.010 to 2.040 all day. Most of the runs were 13.7, but I did get a best of 13.66 @ 101. The only mods are TBCB, 2nd rain baffle, Bump stop, FRA, and no air filter. Now I need to think about a roll cage, but I need to have a baby seat in the car and I just don't like the look. Still deciding what to do... I may just dial 14.0's and sand bag it. My thinking is, GM shouldn't sell a car that fast if it isn't safe, so why does NHRA require 13.99 or fast to have a cage? Hard tops are 11.99. My car is 4" off the ground with 275 40's, how the hell am I going to flip it? Sorry for the rant...
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I just got a G-tech [no drag strips close to where I live] and only ran once because its very hot [90] right now. I had some wheel spin out of 1st. and a little in 2nd. and 3rd. and the G-tech said 13.97 at 106.7 mph. My 99SS conv. has a K&N filter and the loud mouth exhaust. I don't like to jump on it too much because I always smell the clutch if I really get into it off the line and I can't afford that expense right now. I'm sure I should run faster if I get the right traction off the line. I just had the car dyno'd at 312.6 hp and 321.8 torque at 122.97 mph and 12.7 air fuel ratio.
-------------------- 99SS, C221, Black Convertible, Neutral top and neutral leather, 6spd.,B/M shifter, all power, CD/radio, traction control, loud mouth, SLP strut tower brace, K&N Filter, dyno'd at 312.6 hp. and 321.8 torque at 122.97 mph and 12.7 fuel/air ratio with the above mods. I've just installed SLP y-pipe, lid, and bellows. Dec. 2003, installed Don Goetz SFC,s. February 2004 I added white gauges. Posts: 57 | From: Port Elgin, Ontario< Canada | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by Red Dog: I just ran a new best as well.
13.373@107.62 (on street tires still) with a 2.097 60'
Get drag radials!
Hey, you're the one making all the big dinero at AOL....so come on, fork over a tad bit and get those drag radials! I would say get the ET Streets, but you have a manual and you'll probably lose the rear if you went with them. However, I do know some guys that run with manuals and a T/A Girdle on their stock rear ends with ET Streets and their rears are holding up....
I'm curious to see what you can do with the LS1 with good traction.
Hey, you're the one making all the big dinero at AOL....so come on, fork over a tad bit and get those drag radials! I would say get the ET Streets, but you have a manual and you'll probably lose the rear if you went with them. However, I do know some guys that run with manuals and a T/A Girdle on their stock rear ends with ET Streets and their rears are holding up....
I'm curious to see what you can do with the LS1 with good traction.
Yup, I'm working on scoring a set of drag radials now. I'm also working on getting a rollbar too. Not sure that I can afford both yet since I want to put the drag radials on different wheels so I don't have to drive with them all of the time. I think I'm gonna get some of those BFG DRs when I do. With the speed I'm getting, I'm hoping that I can get a significantly better time with some traction and my 4.10 gears.
Big AOL dinero, eh? You haven't looked at the stock price lately.
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quote:Originally posted by 99 Ragtop: Went to the track for the first time last night. Ran 13.74 @ 101.45MPH w/ 2.08 60' on original tires with 18000 miles on them.
I have a whisper lid and flowmaster muffler only.
Looking for K&N, Nittos, FTRA
Not shabby.... Hell, a few more times out there and you may be able to dip very close to 12s with your setup....
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For my first day at the Drag Strip, my best time was:
13.71 @ 102.28 mph This was run with 18" rims and street tires.
Mods are in the sig.
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Went to the Rock on Sunday, I didn't hear an official count but we had about 30 Fbodies there I believe. This included the third gen club that Ryanne was with.
60 1/8ET MPH 1/4ET MPH NA 2.134 8.484 88.86 12.868 112.60 NA 2.141 8.421 89.30 12.808 112.25 NA 2.056 8.349 89.42 12.700 113.45 NA 2.220 8.399 89.70 12.774 112.16 NA 2.263 8.522 88.10 13.141 97.66 NA 2.171 8.538 88.14 12.961 111.69 NA 2.211 8.509 89.08 12.883 112.91 NOS 2.174 8.446 92.98 12.651 118.71 NA 2.197 8.506 89.44 12.884 112.43 NOS 2.110 8.241 94.05 12.399 119.67 NOS 2.081 8.066 95.01 12.199 120.27 NOS 2.368 8.543 92.78 12.732 119.10 NOS 2.203 8.208 94.33 12.345 120.26
NA goal was 8.0-8.1 @ 90mph and 12.5-12.6 @ 115-116mph, I believe I am a good 1.8 60 foot away from these results. NOS goal was 7.6-7.7 @ 96mph and 11.8s @ 123mph, again putting down the power on the bottom half of the track is the limitation at this point.
I need traction mods! Some consistent 1.7s would put me within reach of the NA/NOS goals. I am very pleased with these results given the limitation of the Nitto DRs that I am running. Plus I am not really heating them up fully. These runs backed up some of my results from Greer however though the MPH was better than at Greer. NA I believe there is more there due to the shift RPM that I am limited to currently (6400-6500 with 6600 limiter). I could not manage better than 2.0 60s, plus when I was spraying the hit of the NOS on the tires just past the 60 mark meant that I was in and out of it to try to maintain traction. I need some ETs or M&Hs on some 16s I guess, I don't have the funds for a 12bolt/9inch at this point though. I am leery of running stickies on the stock 10 bolt, though I know many that have done it for a time. Need to do some traction mods and some other things before the November event at the Rock!
Later Craig
99 SS 950 Conv - 224v3 cam,SLP LTs & other stuff 12.70 @ 113.45 (NA,2.05 60',w/17s) 12.19 @ 120.27 (NOS,2.08 60',w/17s) 3715# Raceweight 386rwhp 370rwtq - NA 456rwhp 541rwtq - NOS
84 Z28 406 SBC built by TRE A4 3600 stall, 3.73 12 bolt 3100#? No times yet
Low 9 seconds.....what the hell is that all about? 
Mine's 3700 lbs, with roll bar, nitrous bottle, and most of the stock interior, etc (without me in it). Interesting time you've got, by the way. Killer ET for your MPH.
Who told you that joke? 
