That is what the dealer told me today. He said that the resonator was to close to the differental and was cooking it causing the seal to fail . Has anybody else had this problem or is this a line of SH**......Is it possable
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As Mark said......total bull. Sounds to me like the dealer doesn't want to replace it under warranty and using the LM is an easy way out. Take it to another dealer.
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Pinion seal leak was a no cost option on the F-car. Lots of cars had it right from the factory.
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I have had my Loudmouth on for 2 years and my pinion seal is fine. The dealer is just trying to get out of fixing it under warranty. As Mark said, go find another dealer.
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The resonator is NOT that close to the pumpkin. Total BS, they're just trying to weasle out of repairing a common problem.
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Ed,now you know why I don't like Gordon Chevrolet.I am suprised they did not threaten to void your driveline warranty. Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Joey Red: No problems here. You want me to take of this guy?
YES!!!!!!!
Just talked to the dealer again and asked for the GM rep as I told them that I cant see how a part from a GM supplier (SLP) should cause a problem. A lot of excuses the service mgr is on vacation and I will have to talk to him on Monday.
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Ya know, ever since I put the LM on (years ago), I knew there would come a day when this exact scenario came to fruition, only I thought I'd be the victim...TOTAL BS...Hope your service, uhhem, manager informs them differently when he arrives... Posts: 365 | From: Sugar Hill, GA, USA | Registered: Feb 2000
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quote:Originally posted by JeffY: Pinion seal leak was a no cost option on the F-car. Lots of cars had it right from the factory.
I dont think there would be enough heat transferring through the LM to the seal to cause it to fail due to heat. I think your dealership is full of crap.
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Ed, Gordon Chevrolet is the worst dealership to do any type of business with. I have had numerous problems with them over the years and recommend Mark Chevrolet on Michigan Avenue not far from Wayne Road in Wayne.
Gordon Chevrolet will do anything it can to weasel out of warranty work and charge you so they can get the cash.
P.S. I know the story about the Service Mgr. being on vacation. Its the same excuse all the time. How they stay in business blows my mind.
quote:Originally posted by JeffY: Pinion seal leak was a no cost option on the F-car.
It's certainly not "no cost".
Time and gas to take the car to the dealership for repair. Subsequent incident and near "accident" waiting for the flat deck on the highway (left home with a large coffee ) Time lost enjoying the SS. Hair lost worrying about the SS being at the dealership.
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Unfortunately there are some dealers who go out of their way and try to stick it to the customer instead of just doing the job required and send the buyer home happy. No wonder people are buying foreign made cars instead of domestic. Posts: 2841 | From: Westland, MI | Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Steven: he is full of crap. go some where else
I would go elsewhere the only problen is that this dealer "Replaced" the seal 1 1/2 weeks ago and I have put on a total of 120 miles since I got it back and of those miles 45 of them were to go to work and the dealer after I noticed the leak again .
I dont thing that another dealer would want to touch this problem .
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quote:Originally posted by ss_rs_z: Ed, Gordon Chevrolet is the worst dealership to do any type of business with. I have had numerous problems with them over the years and recommend Mark Chevrolet on Michigan Avenue not far from Wayne Road in Wayne.
Ken I didnt take it to Mark as I wasnt real happy with the way they repaired the SS last time.
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quote:Originally posted by Steven: he is full of crap. go some where else
I would go elsewhere the only problen is that this dealer "Replaced" the seal 1 1/2 weeks ago and I have put on a total of 120 miles since I got it back and of those miles 45 of them were to go to work and the dealer after I noticed the leak again .
I dont thing that another dealer would want to touch this problem .
Sorry to hear that Ed. In all of my years as a Master Automotive Technician,I have replaced 100's of pinion seals and never had one come back leaking.Sounds like the tech shortcutted the procedure or has a lack of experience.
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I had the pinion seal replaced on my wifes car Friday morning. She also has the LM and the service manager didn't give a single moan. Fixed it in about an hour.
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Can anybody tell me if the LM is run the same way as the stock muffler system ?
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quote:Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed: Can anybody tell me if the LM is run the same way as the stock muffler system ?
Totally routed the same way...and the LM is just a resonator tube and is much smaller than the actual OEM muffler. All other routing of the system is the same though the diameter of the pipe is larger.
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Sorry to hear that Ed. Hopefully your car will be repaired soon. Its a shame you had a problem there too. Posts: 2841 | From: Westland, MI | Registered: Apr 2003
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Thanks MMMM_ERT thats what I wanted to know .
Ken called GM customer service and "Voiced" my concern ...........Will be taking the SS to Mark Posts: 3091 | From: Canton Mi. | Registered: Oct 2002
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Way to go Ed and I hope something gets done. I did the same thing with Chevrolet about the problems I had with them but an email I received back stated that they are an independent business and there was nothing Chevrolet could do. I was beside myself. I hope you get better results bud. Posts: 2841 | From: Westland, MI | Registered: Apr 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Mark IXZD 150: Hey Ed, you can also take it to any Pontiac dealer.
I wish the dealers are brand specific around here or I would have taken it to the GMC/Pontiac dealer I have delt with for years.
Correction just called the Pontiac dealer by me and they said that they could take care of it. Have an Appt for Thursday but I'll drop it off early and talk to a few people I know and see if it can be pushed up some.
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quote:Originally posted by Mark IXZD 150: Hey Ed, you can also take it to any Pontiac dealer.
When did GM change their policy on warranty? I just thought any GM vehicle could go to any GM dealer for warranty work only if it was a GMPP Extended Warranty Plan and out of base bumper to bumper warranty,not the base bumper to bumper warranty.
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Wife tried to take a company car to a dealer several years ago and was told that she had to go to the brand specific dealer. I know different now .
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quote:Originally posted by 35TH ED/ed: Wife tried to take a company car to a dealer several years ago and was told that she had to go to the brand specific dealer. I know different now .
If that is ture,it is news to me.I knew that you could take a Ford to a Mercury dealer to get warranty work done,but never heard of GM brands being warrantied for bumper to bumper warranty concerns.Let us know what you find out Ed. Posts: 5682 | From: Dearborn,Mi. | Registered: Feb 2002
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Fact: GM cars under a GM factory warranty can have warranty work done at any GM authorized service center. Key word: "can"
The dealers who refuse on a whim, I guess they can if they desire, but GM usually pinches them if they get wind of it. It's going to have to be a pretty good reason if they don't work on warranty claim. If it's the same brand dealer though, they pretty much have to service it.
When it comes to warranty work, GM is the only brand you have to worry about. If any GM authorized service center tells you that you HAVE to go somewhere else, get their name and tell them you'll ask GM Headquarters if what they're telling you is true. They will not like to hear that, believe me. I guess I should clarify a bit, that a Pontiac dealer doesn't absolutely have to work on a Chevy under warranty, but they will. There's exceptions to everything, but generally you won't be left high and dry if you're out somewhere and the nearest GM dealer is a Pontiac dealer.
An exception example is GM goodwrench service plus warranties, where you do have to go back to the originating dealer...but I'm talking the standard factory vehicle warranty. There are some dealers out there that actually tell people if they bought a new Chevy that factory warranty work can ~only~ be done at a Chevy dealer. That's bunk! While it's probably true you run the possibility of better service for a Chevy at a Chevy dealer, since they're more than likely more familiar with that particular model.
The issue is, the dealer can be an azz about it and not fix your car under warranty, but a call to Detroit usually changes their mind real pronto. Trust me. Seen it happen. They'll bend over backwards to please you then. Don't give up on their first bluff. Caution though if you've been going to one dealer for warranty work and get denied, then try at another dealership for the same warranty item. They'll deny it there too.
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